Considering Toyotas anti-EV stance, I wouldn’t bet on it anytime soon. 

I’d argue that the most important decisions are driven by regulation. If there is a regulation, they will spend money on it. If not, it will be the cheapest option.

4th gear: I’m hoping these figures show the EV naysayers that EV adoption is still happening and having a meaningful impact. I’m not holding my breath tho.

Having driven and been driven in Chinese cars, they are nice and quality is the same or higher than the traditional manufacturers. There is a reason why China is the leading manufacturer of EVs. 

Depends on the definition of “good.” Chinese auto manufacturers (the big ones at least) make good cars. It’s one of the reasons they are a global leader in EVs. Would it be “good” for the US based auto makers? Absolutely not.

Back in the day, my wife, kids and I did without tacos and that allowed us to buy 4000 acres of beach front property in Malibu.

CEOs are only concerned about short term profits. The U.S. adopted this mentality back in the 70’s, and are now facing the consequences of that unraveling. 

I think a lot of the manufacturers were intentionally raising prices of first gen EVs because a) they cost more to produce than a typical ICE, and b) they got used to the higher margins that COVID provided. Now the manufacturers are realizing that people will not pay a premium for their EVs, which is certain models…

+1

It was also a gen 1, new platform vehicle, which is going to come with all the gen 1 new platform vehicle problems. Thats ok if you are leasing, but to buy, especially buy used, is a big gamble. Doesn’t need to be stated, but Porsche repairs are big bucks.

In my experience, after 11 years the battery still held 92.5%.  

Everything in the world degrades. EVs are no different. 

This is why manufacturers can’t just throw a small battery and electric motor into a vehicle and think it will work. An electric vehicle needs to be designed from the ground up.

I used quotes for a reason. Conservatives consider it “saying it as it is” when in reality it’s just someone making overly-confident statements, regardless if they are correct or not. It has to do with delivery of the message and nothing to do with accuracy.

Now replace “drinking and driving” or “seatbelt laws” with “EV mandates” and you will notice that the arguments are the same.

I traded in my 2013 Tesla Model S because I wanted something new. It had a VIN in the 4000's, so it was a very early model. That was gen 1 tech and it has lasted 10+ years, so I’d say your comment is not based on reality.

The demand is already there. People with early 2010s EVs (Smart Fortwo, Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500e, Th!nk City, etc) are already encountering expensive failures from their motors and batteries. However, not a single aftermarket manufacturer sells generic powertrain parts for those vehicles.

No, but conservatives will believe anything they see on tv or read on the internet that aligns with their fears. 

The EPA has been tracking and reporting on GHG emissions since the 1970’s. The latest report was from December 2023. It also includes a section on manufacturer compliance. It’s a good read.

It’s a mall crawler, like most trucks today. Difference is this one looks worse when exposed to the elements.