I keep hearing people say that the lineup is aging, yet the refresh cycle is 6 years, which is on par with other manufacturers.

Most trucks are used as commuter vehicles, which I wouldn’t consider to be very practical.

Trucks today are largely pointless and used as commuter vehicles, yet they sell like crazy. I think the cybertruck will do the same, assuming the price doesn’t go up too high.

Car dealerships tend to be very conservative leaning, so the change to EVs, the growing popularity of direct sales, and EVs needing less maintenance likely have them thinking the sky is falling.

Some places, like where I live, have “super off peak” rates from 1am to 6am where generation fees drop to $0.012 per kw. Yes, 1.2 cents. I schedule my car to only charge during those hours.

I thought the same thing. I’m guessing this is a standard 75D, which was the cheapest model S in 2018. It looks like it was well taken care of, but similar models are selling for high $20's to low $30k.

It sounds more like VW needed a reason to backtrack on their investment claims. 

It seems like you are having a separate argument. What is the scam you keep referring to? Not having buttons? Because I think most people would agree that is a personal preference.

Calling out that stuff is fine. For whatever crazy Tesla-stan comments that are made, there are many times more anti-Tesla-stan comments that are equally or more crazy. Jalop likes to post Tesla stuff because it brings all of them out and drives clicks and “engagement”. 

The only thing more annoying than a Tesla-stan is an anti-Tesla-stan who feels the need to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

Differing opinions is fine, and I think a lot of it is also driving an unfamiliar vehicle. Since I was kid, driving different cars was initially slightly frustration because button placement was different. It wasn’t a huge issue then, and it’s not a huge issue now.

Tesla tracks and reports degradation stats each year. Last years data showed 12% on average, for cars with 200,000k miles or more. Link below, slide 39.

Hybrid tech peaked about ten years ago and is already being replaced by EVs. It was revolutionary for its time, however that has passed. EVs are the successor to hybrids.

I find it’s common behavior with conservatives. They are fulfilling the role as a “useful idiot” for a political party. 

The crazy thing Honda already makes a small EV, it’s called the Honda E.

As others have said, the Touring and Grand Touring are the sweet spot. I test drove a Pure AWD and for $91k it felt very stripped down.

There are definitely more options with modern cars, however even with a touch screen you need to make sure that the controls used most are easily accessible. With a physical button it has a dedicated location and function that never changes. Your brain remembers where it is. With a touch screen it’s not that simple,…

Even with direct sales you can still get vehicles below the sticker price. What you won’t see with direct sales is arbitrary dealer markups, bait and switches, and whatever other underhanded tactics dealers do.

Nobody stays on top forever.

Hybrid tech is nearly 25 years old. Plug in hybrids are newer, but good luck trying to find one. The complexity and likely low profit margins make them not a high priority for auto makers.