A plethora, nay, a googolplex of likes.
A plethora, nay, a googolplex of likes.
Is trolling your fetish? Are you masturbating right now thinking about all the women who know you are this stupid?
Therefore it seems to me it cannot simply be said that to express sexual interest in a cowork is in and of itself at issue.
You seem to be trying not to understand.
It’s also against federal employment law, so the commenter’s personal opinion on what “constitutes harassment” is irrelevant.
“Well my solution to the avoidance of sexual harassment has just been to avoid all romantic involvement with coworkers.”
HOW can you not see the difference between “I wonder if you’d like to get a coffee outside of work sometime” and “Can I masturbate in front of you in our workplace”?!?!?!?!
Give me a break. I doubt that all these workplace romances of which you speak started with a request to watch the other person masturbate.
If he propositioned her for that, that is also wrong! It’s incredibly easy to parse, even for us poor vanilla plebs outside of the kink community.
“It’s just that I don’t see why this should be beyond the pale while presumably CK could have propositioned Ms. Corry for vaginal intercourse and that would have been... better? ...worse? ...the same? I just fail to see a distinction.”
I think a better question is: “Are you lying about women constantly propositioning you in very direct ways and sending you unsolicited nude pics?” (the answer is yes)
Men are not daft. They’ve just been gaslighting us and pretending not to understand.
This line of defense is starting to remind me of “Just Asking Questions”!... They’re pretending they don’t understand how anyone can be mad at anyone else for Just Asking Questions. No damage done, right? JAQ!
“I have always felt it seems inappropriate or too difficult to parse the appropriateness.”
So, assuming you are arguing in good faith and not just doing some subtle trolling, I think there is a country mile between a coworker asking another “hey any chance you’d like to grab drinks one night or have dinner?” And “hey want to come watch me masturbate in my office?”
The fact that workplace relationships exist is completely irrelevant to the question of whether it’s okay to sexually proposition a coworker. And I think you’re being willfully obtuse about it because you enjoy trolling, and because you want to reserve the right to defend harassers and sexual predators because, at…
I think we have every reason to think that FreakOnaut is NOT one of the “well-behaving folk,” based on how hard he’s finding it to understand that it’s not okay to proposition your coworkers.
“Conservatives” and their mouthpieces tend to remind me of this:
1. He decided it was a good idea to masturbate at work. Incredibly inappropriate and it creates a terrible envrionment for, you know, the people who don’t wish to see/hear him masturbate while they try to go about their jobs.
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