As Pareene alludes to, there are people (inside the media and out of it) for whom the flag draped coffin is a religious fetish object. American Holiness lives in that casket, and how dare you critique it.

As a vet myself this is something everyone needs to understand: sometimes American Soldiers die for no good reason. They die in accidents, in blue-on-blue attacks, from improper medical care, in stupid wars, in badly planned missions. It happens. “Soldiers have died” is not a reason to keep fighting in and of itself.

The family of the vet does get to make a choice. Owens’ wife made one choice (yes, you can use me as a prop); his father made another (GTFO you moron whose idiotic decision got my son killed).

Excellent.

A hypocritical Republican? GTFO.

Well said.

Trotting out the military as props is like Politics 101. Their families are inherently sympathetic, and Soldiers get virtually no say in what they are told to do (if someone tells them to go stand next to the President and have him pin on an award, that’s what they do). Plus politicians can funnel all sorts of money…

Pink Skull is correct here. If the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had been waged by conscripted troops instead of ROTC kids and outright mercs, the War on Terror would be over by now. There’d be like a Weather Underground-esque wing of Anonymous under FBI and DHS investigation. Mass protests in D.C. on the reg. Etc.

As a father of three young sons, this is my deepest fear. Makes me sick that this fucking coward draft dodger might actually do this.

As long as you can get American soldiers killed, you will always have defenders, because there will always be people who think saying that American soldiers were sent somewhere to die for no good reason is more offensive than sending American soldiers somewhere to die for no good reason.

Ah, the hypocrisy is thick. Remember when he went after the Khan family and accused HRC of using them as a political prop? Fun times, man. Fun times.

Chris Cilizza is consistently and dangerously moronic. But “Donald Trump understood the applause for Carryn Owens was a moment. And he let it be.” is simply wrong.

So how long until the draft comes back?

mostly these guys want to be witnesses to Great Men Making History. They want to Respect The Office Of The Presidency.

God, you are such a pussy. Ive lived here for five decades and I never pissed my pants once over immigrants, legal or not. Your ilk does it daily.

No, fuck all that. An Indian immigrant was MURDERED in Kansas just a few days ago by a white supremacist who was motivated by the type of anti-immigrant sentiment that Donald Trump has promoted and mainstreamed further than any other politician in recent memory. And what does he do? Basically completely dismisses the…

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What the fuck is up with these cable news talking heads and their knob slobbing on this speech? I mean Van fucking Jones, did you bring a towel with you or did you need to run get one to clean up after you delivered that handy?

Go ask an immigrant how presidential Donald Trump seemed last night.

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