my god, you sure are dedicated to trying to debate a completely different point from the one I’m making.

That you think such laws [”preventing people who are not duly certified in a profession from declaring themselves to be qualified in that profession”] are “fantastic” is a subjective opinion....Here’s an objective fact: They are also UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Or rather, they would be if they existed

Laws preventing people who are not duly certified in a profession from declaring themselves to be qualified in that profession are FANTASTIC and incredibly important to keep unqualified nut jobs from parading themselves around as doctors, lawyers, engineers etc.

it sounds like Oregon has laws against holding yourself out as an engineer without being duly licensed

Except apparently in Oregon you do need a license to declare yourself an engineer, hence the fine. Not saying I agree with the rationale in fining him, just saying if Oregon has a law that says you can’t call yourself an engineer without a license, he would appear to have broken that law.

If anybody is ever curious what a first amendment violation being used to suppress criticism looks like

Do constitutional rights apply to non citizens?

I don’t know the details about this particular incident - maybe this is someone who got into trouble because of an impairment instead of the usual cause of pedestrian injury, unsafe behavior. But to the people speculating that the warning time was dangerously short in general - that’s not necessarily the case. …

I get that the normal response to someone in trouble, even if the person is Trump, is to feel sorry for them. But...

I’m not worried about Trump not conceding - a big chunk of the country has already been brainwashed into believing that there’s widespread voter fraud and that the election is fixed. Whether Trump concedes or not isn’t going to change that.

nicely dry red (cherries and leather and tannins oh my!)

A cultural shift would equalize salaries, too.

Ahem...heffalumps.

a cultural shift where men are expected to take as much days off to care for children as women.

And yet the end result of the turmoil of the 1960s wasn’t the rise of a fascist government.

It’s incomprehensible that he is only a few polling points behind Hillary.