Please please please pick Warren

Holy moley truth.

Wrong. I wasn’t even a teen during the 90's and I know better. Very impressive concern trolling you have going here, Space Cadet.

I agree with you, but there’s no reason to suspect that aesthetic objectives are overriding functional requirements just because SpaceX hired a noted designer. There’s plenty of aesthetics that are evaluated in commercial aerospace, transportation, and most importantly infrastructure (e.g. bridges and buildings)…

You are again missing the 6.2% employer tax.

If your employer wants to maintain pre tax plan cost levels, then they will cut any added cost out of next year’s wage increases. Depending on how pressed they are for margin, the desire to do so is probably strong. Sadly, it won’t work out in the reverse unless your employer is inordinately into profit sharing.

The never ending battle between the expediently useful and the precisely correct :)

I can see your point. They tried to lump 4 tax proposals in one chart, so I didn’t really expect much detail to begin with. With regard to Trump and Cruz, I thought the article made it pretty clear how garbage those numbers were.

I don’t see why I’m simplifying. If employers want to keep their costs the same before and after this tax is enacted, then adjusting next years’ wages is what they will do. Pretty basic behavior. There’s not really a question of maintaining competitive wages, because other U.S. companies are subject to this as well.…

Let's take a took at the average American. The average healthcare cost per person was $9,695 in 2015. That means you’d have to make about $115k per year in order for you to pay out more under this tax scheme. So fair enough, $115k salary is probably the upper 20% of the population.

Because they’ll be passing those costs directly to you, the employee.

8.4% on everyone. Not sure where you’re seeing the 56% increase.

Replace? In some cases people will come out ahead, in some they won’t - it all depends on how much you currently pay. I’ve already demonstrated that I will be paying 1.1% more under Bernie’s tax plan based on the amount my employer declares for my healthcare. Your mileage may vary.

Possibly the 4th or 5th time I’ve chased this argument across this article...

Except he will. His flat 6.2% tax on employers and 2.2% tax on employees is a feature, not bug, of his single payer healthcare plan.

Well, I suppose to make things clearer, Vox could have included a box for “Your current yearly health insurance cost”, and split the difference for you. But I can’t help but feel that would be getting a little bit too hand-holdey for functional adults...

But there’s an overall 2.2% tax on individuals and 6.2% tax on employers in the proposal to fund single payer health care.

The logical thing to do is to include the employer payroll taxes. The calculator also can’t incorporate savings that are accurate for everyone. Can’t you just use these results, and then look at the difference between your new tax burden and your current insurance cost?

No, it’s not false. Employers include health insurance costs when calculating overall wages (i.e. cost of retaining an employee), and how much they are paying is reflected directly on W2's. I just checked mine - 7.3%. That means my wages will be depressed 1.1% if these health plans pass and if my employer desires to…

As I wrote above in response to someone else: