Swing and a miss on the styling for me (it’s subjective, if you like it, good on you). The Hyundai and KIA variants are much more cohesive. This seems very much like they had to take styling cues from the other Genesii and slap them on this shape. It’s a shame, because they were clearly brave enough to let Hyundai…

Yep - it would be California.

So that would be California. Within a 2 hour loop of my house I can whizz through winding vineyard roads, take the PCH along the rugged Sonoma coast with waves crashing, a giant Redwood grove, and a mountain pass that gets snow in winter. As a Brit that has been here for over a decade, it still astounds me.

I hate to take the obvious answer that was already noted - but I don’t see away around California. You have a little bit of everything:

I think you’re underestimating the engineering that goes into a “out the box” vehicle that can do 80mph across the dunes, maybe roll on it’s side a few times, but it will make it home with you in one piece. If you think there are bunch of guys in a shop welding tubes together and slapping an engine in the back you are…

I think they are designed for the application they are used for.
Miata: Track car - fast, light, cornering speeds and handling.
Polaris: Jumping over a highway https://www.autoblog.com/2021/10/21/polaris-rzr-pro-r-hoonigan-rj-anderson-long-beach-video/ and wining races in Baja.

Apples and potatoes dude - not even…

A Miata doesn’t have meaty 32" off road tires, 3ft long coil overs or lower control arms thicker than my thigh. 

#SuspensionComponentsAreHeavy

They’re good cars.

Too bad you have to go to a Kia dealership to buy it, an experience that—nine times out of ten—will leave you feeling so frustrated and abused, you’ll run straight to the nearest Audi dealer for a considerably costlier A/S5 Sportback, or to the BMW dealer for a considerably uglier 430i/M440i Gran Coupe.

Nice Corvette, bro!

this $500 car is not worth $4500. what the hell is wrong with you?

We’ve got a similar utility style Polaris Ranger 6x6 that we use to haul camping/hunting gear in (and sometimes moose or caribou out); they’re definitely workhorses. The dump bed is great for moving dirt/gravel/firewood and they’ll climb stupid, stupid steep grades. The extra track length is also nice to prevent high…

I had my kid at age 13

“Fines are the only consequences jerks who act up on flights face. It’s against federal law to interfere with a flight crew and their duties. While the FAA can’t prosecute unruly passengers so do indeed face federal charges stemming from their actions aboard flights. Airlines have also begged the feds to have…

I have some insight into this. ANYTHING for sale at pro races, from t-shirts to that six-buck bottle of water, is subject to multiple fees paid to either the race organization or the track owner . . . or both, plus sales tax, the cost of the space the vendor takes, etc etc and even more etc.

Tesla Model S. There, I said it.

“We’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty.”

If I want to fully refill the tank on my van, I have to start a second credit card transaction. I understand they can’t do anything about the price, but the fact that they won’t raise their authorized amount really irritates me.

Thank you. This site is a weird combination of car enthusiast and anti-capitalist at the same time, but the notion that a $1.5M California home makes them “elite” is just stupid.

I would think the *owners* of the fancy cars would be less than thrilled about having them parked on the street. If I knew a shop was doing that with my car I wouldn’t be taking my car there.