I don't think "the law" actually matters at this level. What matters is whether or not your'e willing to go to war over it. If you realize how little you can do about the situation, then you understand why being demonstrative wouldn't serve your interests. Angry, upset, any negative emotion is fine, but they should be…

I thought they said no one will know rather than know one must know. It is strange either way and much weirder if it's as you say and they're deliberately keeping it concealed. It's strange that Ronnie doesn't have any family or any other friends who would be curious about his whereabouts.

Do we know that they're going to keep them secret? Has Dad Detective signed off on that? I have to assume he'll wonder what happened to Nimbus once he's mobile.

Isn't Eddie Thawn from the future-future and not the not so distant future? 25th century from wiki. I'm starting to think it's likely that the Eddie we see is an ancestor rather than the big bad, and that Flash has to deal with the fact that Thawne's spawn ends up to be such a douche and Iris might be the great…

Do you think it will actually pay off and we'll get to see Cisco as Vibe and Caitlin as Frost? I could see them letting Caitlin be Frost, but it also seems weird that they're waiting so long for their powers to manifest with no hints.

It wouldn't have felt cheap to me. Dude shows up doing something amazing, home girl is in shock, can only get out the name, "Ronnie", start title sequence. A lot of this show feels like it's designed for people completely unfamiliar with tv tropes. Every tender moment feels so predictable and telegraphed.

It also seems weird to have someone of such god-like power on this show even if he's often not intelligent enough to use his powers to their max potential.

Isn't firestorm supposed to be at least two people, one usually being a scientist? Also, that's not an obvious a spoiler as you imply. I didn't know the same accident that birthed Flash also created Firestorm. Ronnie is a nice hint though.

A lot of this show feels like tv for people who haven't been watching tv for most of their lives. It's not as simple as saying that it's a kid's show; it's more like it's catering to people completely unfamiliar with tv tropes. The only thing that I enjoy as throw-back is Dr. Wells vintage style of sinister. Aside…

"abuse of authority" "she had no right"…so you're saying non-Earth Kingdom world leaders have more of a right and more authority to declare how the Earth Kingdom should be run than an Earth Nation leader who spent three years bringing order to the region? It shouldn't be hard to see why I find that argument…

"broke the law"? Break international law? In the real world, it usually takes quite a bit to rouse the world into action against someone "breaking international law". On top of that the more economically dependent they are on that individual's country, the less likely they are to do anything, and it also works in…

that's a fun phrase!

Also "right to be upset", if I were their boss, I would be mad at them for giving Kuvira so much leeway and not taking any ownership of the process themselves. It reminds me of a group project in school. If 4 people decide to undertake a group project and one of them does a bulk of the work and decides to kick the…

My wording was poor but I'm sure you'll still disagree with me when I correct myself. Being upset is natural, being expressive is an entirely different things. There are a lot of fine reasons for them not to be demonstrative.

I am not pro-Kuvira. I just don't expect the assembled world leaders to immediately and loudly express their displeasure, and I don't find it strange that they didn't. There are a lot reasons for them not to be expressive and loud in their outrage - both practical and emotional. I could also understand it if they did,…

Look, I can give it to you, but we don't know that they're actually after Wu (although there's a good chance); Wu may not be their objective in that scene. Also we can't infer that Bolin and Mako are fighting from that scene.

We don't disagree with each other. I think the guy that I responded to might take issue with your comment. I have no problem with the fact that the other world leaders refrained from instantly openly and vehemently objecting to her declaration. When I was watching the show, it didn't cross my mind at all because like…

Yeah, my larger issue is the idea that bolin and Mako are going to fight. So far, there's little incentive for Kuvira to go after him. If she does go after Wu, it would be a smart thing to have Bolin sit that mission out. If she did include Bolin in the mission, there's a great chance he turns on her mid mission.…

contracted? She took Suyin's army to get it done. The story makes it seem like she took the initiative. They weren't promising her anything to complete the task. They just assumed she was doing it out of some kind of nationalistic pride.

@matthewdownie:disqus @disqus_OiZ5QLqBye:disqus @avclub-e65076d21d4b718526e684473c359d55:disqus all need to read this response. Nice and concise with some historical perspective. There's not a great reason for them to have some expressive angry response considering that they basically set the table for this to happen.