same. NP

it’s a brand.

price.

You can skip the USA part if you lease. You can get the $7500 applied to your lease. If you’re a savvy shopper that’ll reduce the price of the car. If you’re a bad shopper the dealer will just absorb that in a ridiculously expensive lease.

Yeah. Still seems like a lot compared to our 2020 ioniq EV limited (the fully loaded one. It was really well equipped, and surprisingly nice, well beyond reason) we’re returning this weekend. After credits and rebates it came to $700 down and $150/month. For the last 36 months. We picked it up like 2 weeks before the…

And all the legal hassle Of having to prove without a doubt that you weren’t at fault because a family member of asshat is trying to come after you after asshat died being an asshole at 120mph, into your rear glass.

few years ago, i got run over by and stuck under a toyota highlander. i was pinned between the splash guard and the pavement. my foot was caught past the back of the subframe, still clipped into my pedals.

the buyout is $20,300 plus tax.... if we do lease plus buyout, wed spend a grand total of about $35k on the car after taxes and everything.

she must be driving on soft tires and flooring it from the lights....

along with the purchase of the bolt, we leased a bz4x as well. we seriously seriously considered the PHEV, but we couldnt find a deal that was appealing enough. we ended up with the bz4x for $3k down and $280/m (after taxes and all) from capitol toyota in san jose (the wife prefers shiny new cars). all said and done,…

im in the south bay. also just recently bought a bolt. with the 13% rate increases we just got for Jan from PGE, it’s closer to 45mpg now if I charge at home. not the greatest but beats the 21mpg i was getting.

Of the 139k affected, how many of them are still driving around with that wonderful transmission?

These things are like right at or under 2000lbs.

honestly, the problems are really blown outa proportion by the news. I commute to SF 3 days a week, it’s not the horrible shitshow that the news makes it out to be. It has it’s big city issues, but I’ve worked in a handful of the US top 10 metroplexes, and on the grand scheme of things, it’s actually not that bad.

it’s gotta be some sorta idiot requirement like “can plow into a loading dock nose first at 40mph, and allow the rear frame and A-pillar to survive”

Here.... this repair bill’s for you, Florida Taxpayers!

yeah, im with ya there. at the end of the day, unless they make a huge jump in efficiency, like 20% between combustion and drivetrain, over the previous model year, it just aint happening...

Then they took the W with george, and a few years later they found their Lord, Donald Jesus Trump

if they can punch thru the 30mpg range for a truck they’d be in a really good spot. though based on shape and size i have my doubts.