Most of the weight came from the NB. Safety equipment added from 1999-2005 added close to 200lbs, and a properly optioned NC could actually be lighter than the MSM...

People really like to rag on the NC for putting on weight, but it really only gained about 50lbs on the NB, whereas the NB put on close to 200lbs itself from it’s first to last year, even more if you include the MSM.

And by my brief research, it will still be the same length as the other compact pickups out there. Long for a Jeep, but not for a truck.

Wow, that’s pretty much it. Beautiful. Don’t get to see much of them in New England though. Death, rust, and taxes.

White, blue interior, turbo, targa, stick. It’s all I want from life. Oh, and making sure it has a repaired head gasket would be nice.

Diesel engine could return fairly decent gas mileage (the Ram got 27 hwy), something no Wrangler has ever been able to do.

“Sure, why not,” Kristen Lee said. “We’re all going to die in a nuclear winter anyway.”

Schwing!

This is better than the Mazda engine news from yesterday. Well, not in the societal terms, but well, you know.

The benefits of weight reduction.

It’s okay, the previous generations of both are much better looking anyways.

Back then it was pronounced su-BAAH-ru. So maybe they did need to graze every now and then.

Wait, like hatchback as in the rear glass goes up with the trunk lid? Seriously? Or is this like the Germans calling a 4 door with a raked rear window a coupe?

Well if Mini had just numbered the oil cap with 710 like all the other companies they could have avoided this mess in the first place.

My brain says “NO” but my heart says “Here, take my first born...”

You can even get a Renegade without A/C. Must be that Jeep thing that we all wouldn’t understand.

Oh god yes.

That would definitely qualify as one of the others.

It’s comfort in knowing that you have one of the most batshit insane street legal cars on the road today. And that’s a good thing.