What a missed opportunity.

Saying it was “forgettable” does not explain why it’s still beloved by so many decades later. The special effects were an undeniable ingredient in its success, but when people now talk about what they love about it, they talk about Pullmans speech or Goldblum or Smith. It had a LOT of ingredients that gelled in a way…

You’re not entirely wrong, the first film is incredibly dumb, and is honestly the prototype for what dumb blockbusters became moving forward. But the difference is that the fun outweighed the dumb, and it gave us characters we actually cared about and wanted to follow. The sequel did none of these. 

Well, with Dean Devlin saying “It was gonna be like Rocky III,” I’m now picturing that it was going to be a build-up to a boxing match between Will Smith’s Hiller character and a roided-out version of one of the aliens. Oh, and a montage of Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum training on the beach, complete with Epic Bro-Hug.

Oh yes! Especially since aftwr The Boys, I cannot watch Jesse T. Usher and see his A-Train, his character from the show, and have a strong urge to punch him.

“She (boats are women, remember)“

There is eucalyptol in cannabis. Mystery solved...

I mean there’s no denying Bad Boys, Independence Day, Men In Black, Enemy of the State all in a row was the height of Smith’s box office success, but it seems a bit weirdly revisionist to say it was “all downhill from there”. I mean, he kind of did it again with Ali, Bad Boys 2, Men in Black 2 a few years later, and…

on one hand, i understand the whole “recouping lost tax from not fueling up with gas” but on the other hand, penalizing what is probably 5 times regular gas cars would be be contributing in taxes on average is just stupid petty..

It’s just nostalgia. The first move was also a flaming pile of too stupid for words garbage, but when you're 14, it's cool. It was never a good film. 

“[Fox executives] also wanted to concentrate on the younger pilots, who didn’t have as much to do with the original Independence Day,” Devlin said. “They thought that young people wouldn’t want to watch Jeff Goldblum, which I thought was crazy”

$25 million per year to run and operate it is cheap. The usual rule of thumb is about 10% of the yacht’s cost. He must be getting some of his supplies off Amazon.

i’d say eat the rich but those 2 look really unappetizing

Better keep that sculptor on a monthly retainer as the lip injections shrink and grow, Jeff.

Want to look cool, or be cool?

If you want to be cool, buy yourself an old Mustang or Corvette or MG or VW bug or anything that’s less than $10-20,000 but you still think might be fun, then use the $50-60,000 to establish a scholarship at a local high school auto shop or trade school.

No person over the age of 75 should ever be behind the wheel of an automobile.

The only way to look cool at 70 is to do absolutely nothing to look cool. Any effort to try to look cool will be doomed to making you look desperate.

Bwahaha!

My 90 YO Dad is going to look at a C4 this week. $5k

The answer is Morgan. Might not be able to get a brand new Plus 4 for under $70k, but recent, new ones are there.