I saw one of these a few days ago with a wonderfully self-deprecating custom plate that read "TURBOAT".

Facility, Licence to Kill, Slappers Only. God, that made for adrenaline-fuelled gaming.

Absolutely - don’t get me wrong, I think these are an inefficient ego-stroking device that will be used in a manner that doesn’t suit the vehicle at all in ninety percent of cases. But if it’s half as good as it could be, it’s still half as bad as it is now, and if it converts people into EV drivers that otherwise…

As bad as it is, it’s still less bad. And as the grid gets more renewable so will the car. And there won’t be local emissions. The people who buy one are never going to buy a Tesla or a Bolt or a LEAF anyway.

At least it's not spewing shit all over the place while it's doing so.

It definitely makes it not a pinnacle of waste and selfishness. If the owner wants to show off with one of these, at least they're not doing so while getting 8 miles to the gallon of diesel through the magic of converting fuel into particulate matter.

They wouldn't have built a real one yet. They'll have test mules and show models, but there won't be a finished one at this stage.

This comment is not getting enough love.

If it gets a brodozer off the road, that's the same as like eight cars though, right?

There are certainly some theological determinists around. It's a philosophy that requires a great deal of faith, should you suffer misfortune.

I thought that was what they said to someone else who has suffered misfortune.

The downside is in the opportunity cost, however small (they wasted time and energy doing this instead of making their motorcycles more compelling to a wider demographic), and maybe the paradoxical effect of the promotion, which makes them look completely out-of-touch, further alienating potential younger buyers.

They genuinely believe that if bad things happen to you (you’re poor, sick, disabled), it’s because you’re a bad person. If bad things happen to them it's someone else's fault.

The representative doth protest too much, methinks.

Exactly - the partnership makes perfect sense, because HD is also quickly becoming irrelevant.

And they’re going to earn tons of fast money with shitty Aerosmith hoodies? I agree that it’s basically a no-cost initiative to screen-print some sweatshop clothing with some pictures of a bunch of senior citizens, but it’s so *lazy*.

I’m sure you're right.

But only the passenger side.

The targa roof makes the 85 look ridiculous, but the 79 is cool.

They’re not hidden if you show everybody.