This is awesome. You’re natural habitat zinger aside I’ve always wondered at the old school mantra of Land Rovers being overlanding beasts. Maybe it was before my time but I’ve never seen a Land Rover that could overland its way off a gravel road and at thier price, no one would even try.

KL Cherokee would handle it like a champ, I’ve driven mine thorugh waaay worse; its BLD works pretty well in Rock/Snow mode and it has a rear locker. Renegade/Compass both use the same 4WD system, no real low range (1st gear lockout is all they have) and open diff, I’d expect they would perform similar to some of the…

Thats been my experiance. Like another user said, I grew up with barn cats and still have a few of them. Knocking on vehicles and even opening and slamming the hood never worked 100%. If they don’t get scared bad by cars early they’ll pretty much always end up dead by one.

Or look into a few year old GT500.

Pontiac Strato Streak, just because I have one sitting in my garage:

First thing I though also. Ghost of Nader Past.

Tires, in relation to the lane markers, are always the first thing I watch then the drivers silohette throught the back window. Its easy to see them server or driving erratically when watching the tires and its fairly easy to see distracted drivers through the back window.

It was kinda funny how they got random people to watch the vid then bag on the person.

That video is one of the greatest masterpieces to ever be put forth by a hair band. I say this now, and I was 1 when it was shot.

Didn’t Ford try this back in the 60's? Worlds of difference in vehicle design since then but I’d still be dubious as to how well this would hold up under real work conditions. Of course, 95% of people wouldn;t but this for work anyway.

“It was essentially free.”

I understand what you’re saying should be common sense but from a professional standpoint shouldn’t you like it when heroin dealers and junkies admit to this stuff? I mean that is your job as prosecutor right, to get these guys off the street (serious question, no sarcasm)?

The same reason I hate the Honda Element, Nissan Cube, or that Citroen thing that looks like a duck. They all crashed into an ugly tree then got lost in the ugly forrest.

I agree. Maybe I mis-read that but it sounded like they equated being more wealthy with getting better grades so they qualified for more tuition assistance.

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Texas has them beat. The last year I was station in San Antonio we had a little storm come in, just slick spots on bridges and overpasses. They shut down the three biggest highways (1604, 410, and I-35), had over 800 wrecks by 9 that morning. Honestly, I’ve diven in multiple different countries and I don’t know how…

Not necessarily. Its pretty common for under water debris to be separated by large distances, due to currents and such.

Wedding day ~15 years ago. Couple buds had come up on leave with me. Had a couple hours before the ceremony so we went tearing around some dirt roads in my old 86 Chevy. Took a corner to fast, had it up on two wheels twice (right then left side), weak sidewalls on cheap tires just saved us from a roll. Bent the…

Parks highway, Alaska, somewhere between Denali and Fairbanks. Kinda creepy, driving for hours then look up on the side of the road and see a couple couches, dozens of stuffed animals, all looking back at you.

Another OKC dweller here. Seriously, everyone thinks this guy is a peice of shit. I’ve not seen any support for him, anywhere.