Lol it’ll be interesting to see how the battle between the coal rollers and Tesla Cybertruck owners will go down.

Point is, yes nothing is perfect and shit can happen, it’s when the party fixes that issue. BMW is still sorting it out, but other manufacturers have had issue and are still having today and are sorting them out

I dunno, for you it might be that way, but fellow friends of mine have bought theirs and haven’t even had an issue. I’ve been seeing a fair number of G05's kicking it today. Like I said, there are certain earlier vehicles that were lemons and BMW has been issuing buybacks. Like I said, this is normal for any first MY…

Doesn’t seem to sport a big grille and won’t for the production version.

0-60 time isn’t the be-all in an EV, when there’s more to an EV like range, technology, performance, etc. and 4 seconds isn't all that bad.

The new M340i is still a driver’s car. It’s fun to drive and toss around too. 

That’s due to the G05 X5 being in its first model year. I even went on to forums, it’s mostly just BMW, being in a hurry, kind of rushed the production and caused some duds in the few models that left the assembly line. Software issues were normal in those few that were considered duds. That is normal with a new…

The new M340i is still a driver’s car. It’s fun to drive and toss around too. 

You're not wrong, the N63 literally is a nightmare...

But I’ve seen BMWs be reliable for quite some time now and yeah take care of it and it’ll keep you happy and enjoying the car. These are still well-built cars today. I don’t know why BMW is being targeted if what they found with them was pretty good overall.

Alfas aren't the only ones that offer driving excitement, 718s are still ridiculously fun as well.

Porsche Boxsters are never gray. Idk why folks here are saying other fun sports cars are gray, when any sports car of the class has personality and whatnot. Boxsters/Caymans have tons of charisma where it’s due and the dare I say that the 4C wasn’t as exhilarating to drive as the other Alfas.

Big Grilles and Big Wheels...Horrifying

Don’t try to drag Porsche in to this.

And I like that.

I mean, to be fair, it goes both ways, yeah there’ll be ignorant people shitting on Tesla and could do worse, but there are also Tesla fanboys who think they’re the shit and start getting too cocky causing them to shit on everything and think that they’re the second coming of god.

IDK the new ones are still pretty decent when opting for a ‘19 TRD pro when it comes to that off-roading goodness. The ‘19 still feels rigid and makes for an awesome daily. Reliability, Off-Roading capability, etc. The 4Runner still has it.

Most are good points, but I wouldn’t question the logic of anyone who buys a 40-50k german sports sedan. If it’s what that person desires/loves.

I salute your parents!

Like a car, you still use one.