One of my earliest and, in retrospect, most generous descriptions of TLJ was that it will be remembered as “the weird one.”

“He didn’t know who my parents are, he just wanted me to join him.”

Yup.  I’m looking forward to seeing what he does with his own trilogy, I just don’t think he should have been let within a hundred miles of this one.

I’m happy to see I’m not only with my lukewarm reception to TDK. And Dark Knight Rises was a complete slog for me, aside from how happily surprised I was with Hathaway’s Catwoman.

Rian could have had his cake and eat it too...if just required genuine effort and creativity. Instead he really told a rote story and said “ill zag instead of zig” regardless if it helped the story or the characters in anyway. He forced his zags into the story instead of doing it organically and creatively.

It just seemed like TLJ was written and shot like an ENDING instead of a the middle part of a trilogy.  It even has its own little epilogue scene, which seemed like it would be more appropriate for the end of the series instead of this bridging narrative.  (Unless that stable boy’s a big part of this final movie.)

And dark side characters are not the only ones to play fast and loose with the truth of peoples parentage, who knows, what Kylo said might even be true, from a certain point of view.

Yes he’s serious, but don’t call him Shirley.

They almost have to walk TLJ back to some degree. When you have literally half your fan base hating a movie, you can’t just stick by that. At Star Wars celebration whenever the movie was mentioned half the audience boo’d half cheered. It’s been a dividing force since the day it was released. This story is about…

I’m always dumbfounded people don’t question whether or not a character seduced to the dark side would lie or not. Like, did you even pay any attention to the first 6 movies? OF COURSE he’d lie! Just because Kylo said something doesn’t means it is even remotely true.

Not quite the same. Nolan’s Batman trilogy wasn’t part of a story that began 40 years ago and prided itself on being just that, complete with returning actors.

Sure he wanted to make his statement, but to some degree he had to not care about the movie/s that came before to do that.

It’s not even so much that he didn’t care but that he wanted to make a Statement out of some subversive artistic hubris. Have your opinions on TLJ but it’s hard to deny that the movie just Doesn't Fit in the saga. 

I think its pretty clear most of The Last Jedi will be waved away. {Spoiler warning but why reading this article if that bothers you?!?] There were only a few actual major developments in TLJ:

Which makes the whole thing Disney/LucasFilms fault. I mean, who the hell decided it was ok to let someone who didn’t care about your ongoing storyline helm the middle movie of a trilogy?

Well, having the hots for your sister is a Skywalker family trait.

I have this suspicion that Kylo Ren knows who Rey’s parents are. Sorry, “parents.” She’s really Han & Leia’s daughter.

You can tell by the timing of there releases since they bought Star Wars that they were more focused on meeting release dates then making the best possible product. So I’m glad they’re taking a hiatus in order to refocus on making better movies.

I don’t care about being spiteful, and I like Rian Johnson’s other movies, but TLJ was just a shitty way to go about the second movie in a trilogy--they're definitely gonna walk some stuff back.