You’re still oversimplifying the differences, there’s more to it than those things. GT3 Cup or hell, even GT4 class? I’ll give it to you, pretty similar to their street variants and you could sell a something for the street like Porsche does for the GT3 RS & Cayman GT4. No argument there.

GT3 & up really, REALLY…

Yeah, about that little fella. That’s a 911 GT3 Cup car, which participates in an all-Porsche spec series, not a GT3 classification car that competes against other GT3 cars from numerous manufacturers. 

The Porsche 911 GT3 and a GT3-spec racecar are two very different things.

His point is that popular is one thing, “so, everyone who buys one” is another entirely. I’d guess that absolute max, maybe 15-20% will autocross or track theirs.

We who do those things are an extremely niche/small corner of the automotive community. Not even dedicated “track day special” cars have 100% actual usage…

Technically, yes. However, in Level 3, the driver does need to take over if the vehicle asks the driver to, so if that were to happen, we’re back to a no.

NASCAR at COTA is a different experience, 1 because there’s far less traffic than a standard NASCAR race (less popular to the core fans than an oval) and the facility itself wasn’t built for NASCAR, so its’ just different in general. 

Because most of the people who buy a Tesla would prefer not to drive at all, ever.

If you’re implying using it to carry a drunk driver home, no, we’re not there yet at all. You need Level 3 minimum, realistically 4 or 5 for that.

Level 2 requires attention from a capable driver still, both in general and especially were it to need them to take back over. Emphasis on capable driver.

I get what you’re…

Because of the 12 WeatherTech series races, half are 2:45. Two are 100 minute sprints, and then there’s the 4 big ones.

No surprise here, that’s why I commented haha.

You likely already know, so apologies if so, but also for anyone else reading this - that sanctioning fee/agreement (series charges a track to “bring the show to town”) applies to pretty much every professional motorsport series, especially in the US.

Chicagoland did lose it’s round for a reason, I suppose.

I get where you’re going with this, but I don’t think there’s any substantial amount of people who think the Abarth is beautiful... are there? Like it’s a Top-10 car in the soundtrack department for me, but I’ve always thought it looks terrible. 

Chicago was the closest major city to me growing up, so there’s a homey feel of sorts for me, but it’s been a while since I’ve spent any real time there so I’ll defer the first two points, though I still think that *any* festival-like event in any city draws a crowd. Hell, I’d get dragged all over to all sorts of…

There’s gotta be at least some who like it, I suppose. Hell, the most comfortable car I’ve ever driven was a 370 Nismo and I can’t imagine that’s a common answer. 

Basically I just found the stock seating position so high that the only way I can describe it is that it felt like sitting on a toilet lol. 

For some reason I didn’t presume that, and I probably should have, yeah lol.

Very much disagree - veteran of the motorsports industry here.

The majority of attendees at the various racing series’ street course events aren’t actually racing fans. They’re attending because it’s a big festival-type event and is something social to do in the city. That’s the entire reason street courses are held.

Personally I think the intended broader definition of fun needs to be explored in these cases.

1) Bathurst 1000
2) WRC Finland
3) Isle of Man TT