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What part of the design of this truck made you think it was intended for extensive paved-street driving to a presumably white collar job? It’s designed for the exact opposite of that, extensive unimproved-road driving to very dirty jobs.

Problem is, studies show it’s a job no human can reliably do. The brain just cannot pay attention like that. The entire premise is flawed.

Well I suspect people are gonna crucify the driver, but I bet anybody would space out after riding around for an hour or two without touching the controls.

All I’ll say is that the new M5 with 600HP, 553 Lb/FT and AWD is priced at $102,600 (plus $995 destination and handling) 

when you’re stuck in stop and go traffic every day for an hour (ie. most people) - the “perceived” handling differences are moot. Really all you want is a comfortable interior, some extra hp for passing power, a good infotainment system and good sound deadening. I continue to roll my eyes at some of the “handling”

It’s a cargo van with seats. If hauling people is your thing, regular minivans are probably way more comfortable but, with their six-cylinder engines, about 50% less miserly with fuel. Except for the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid. That gets about 30MPG on the gas cycle.

I question the premise; we don’t need another performance truck. We don’t need ANY performance truck. Some percentage of trucks are work trucks, and that’s why the class exists, but the majority of trucks that are sold in this country are mall crawlers and grocery getters. They are far worse than the crossovers that

5th Gear: In between this and the grid girls post, there’s just a liiiiitle bit too much Splinter in my Jalopnik today.

I came here to post this.

I have to tell you, you haven’t owned a real AMG until you have owned a Mitsubishi Galant AMG.

Have you seen the price of 2002 Tundra’s and Tacomas. 2010 you could get a 90k mile Tundra for $10k with 4wd. Trade in on a 2002 Tacoma with like 170k miles is now $10k. You’re not touching those for less than $12k these days.

Word...but we both know that ain’t happening.

1st: I never thought I’d see the price of GM cobalts go up.

“...dramatic, exciting sedan.”

Jason I think we as car enthusiasts often miss the point of the crossover boom. Average drivers want a comfortable step-in height, a convenient hatch-style rear opening, good ground clearance, and a commanding view of the road. You get none of that in a sedan. What they lose, better handling and performance, really

If you’re someone who gets a new car every 3-4 years anyways then it makes sense. If you’re someone who keeps a car for 10 years then buying makes sense.

Tried that once. Wore a rented tux and monocle but stupidly spit out the caviar declaring, “It’s like if dead fish had babies!” I was then “approached” and had to admit, “Well I’m not an owner per se (finger quotes), but I am an enthusia...”

Cliche, but Miata.

Track day/HPDE junkies. I have usually never run into such a nice, helpful group of people in all the things I do with my cars. Instructors have brass b***s and teach us so much about driving.

I’ve owned a 118hp MINI Cooper and an MK6 GTI, at the same time even, and IMO, the MINI is more fun. Is the GTI faster and technically more capable? Sure. But the MINI is just more fun to drive. You can wring it out and it just loves it.