Can your mom come and confirm that for me?

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I’m talking about (and quoting) the specific things you said. That’s intellectually rigorous. Your feelings about what someone else said, which don’t appear to have much basis in what they actually said, don’t seem terribly relevant by contrast.

I’m talking about liberals, as opposed to leftists. Also, I’m talking very specifically about the exact things you have said.

“Economically anxious” Germans elevated Hitler to power too. Go bleed your heart for them, if you wish.

Actually, I didn’t, although you seem more interested in a fight than a dialogue.

So, wait, you didn’t know even the most basic things about this without Googling them, and you were arguing with multiple people who actually did know things about it . . . and that is proof that you “scored a point”.

Patents or it didn’t happen.

By, uh, pushing an agenda of actually working against the economic horror that has been perpetrated on lower-income people in this country. Like I said. There you go again, arguing that helping poor people somehow does “harm to marginalized people”.

So? New York and California frequently elect Republican governors too. State governorships don’t track presidential politics in the way that you imply they do; that’s a very well-known fact.

I just read post after post from you in which you characterized an agenda of economic justice being somehow in opposition to social justice, rather than what they actually are, which is fundamentally intertwined. So, no. I even quoted you saying it.

It’s hilarious how economic anxiety is only a thing when it’s felt by white men, and can be used to explain every social horror that white men and women support: sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.

Honestly I don’t see it as a chicken and egg thing. Only 31% of white men voted for Hillary. Liberals don’t need to refocus on whites, they need to double down on being a party with actual principles and progressive values. Focusing on racist, sexist xenophobes with “economic anxiety” won’t bring anyone in, it’ll push…

These are women who voted for an open misogynist. What are liberals going to offer them?

And what’s your solution? Should we cloak a progressive agenda in hatred for minorities and women? How do we bring in these folks whose “economic anxiety” makes them hateful asshats?

Yeah please help make more excuses for the people who ran such an incompetent campaign, because God forbid rich DNC employees and party operatives be expected to do a good job.

Wisconsin and Michigan haven’t gone red in a presidential election in decades, so something material changed.

In this case, a lot of the decisive states were ones that haven’t been swing states in recent elections. Michigan hasn’t gone red since 1984, for instance.

Well, in fairness, very few sixth graders are going to invent anything good.