I get and totally agree with your point. Try to understand that I am saying a slightly different thing from what you think I’m saying.

I know what you are saying, and I agree in many cases. I don’t know for sure about this poster. But I’m trying (unskillfully) to make a slightly different point.

Holy shit.

This is unfair. You cannot intervene to help the person because the cops will FUCKING SHOOT YOU.

I can tell you something that I do. I tell them about every single movement I’m going to make in extreme detail in a calm voice even while they are screaming at me. This is exactly what the woman in this video did. It’s what Philando tried to do.

You’re missing the point of the post. I don’t know if you read the whole thing, but this was not an All Lives Matter sort of bullshit and rather an attempt to understand why white people could still keep denying that this happens, especially considering it does also happen to them.

YES. This is what is so frustrating about it. It could become much more rare. It is true that the vast majority of cops are decent people who want to do a good job. Until all the others are held accountable for it, though, it doesn’t matter. When a cop shoots someone (like in these two recent cases- Philando and…

I really think this applies to larger American entitlement as well. I used to spend a lot of time in antiwar activism. I slowly realized that Americans really do not think of people around the world as being real people. Like, on a fundamental level deep in their psyches- they were so made up of American…

Thanks for the Stokely Carmichael shout-out.

The cop should be charged with murder. Accountability is really the only thing that is going to start changing this, I think.

I agree with that, but it’s still something that shakes you up when you see a situation in which someone does everything RIGHT (in life generally, but even in this confrontation) and they STILL get fucked. It just proves beyond a doubt that there is injustice and it provokes some feelings that are just different.

Man, I’m right there with you. Dreading work this weekend because people around me always say stuff like that. I was just sitting here thinking that if it happens again this weekend, I’m going to walk right out of the project. I don’t understand why people think they can so freely share their hate.

In the video, he is slumped in the chair behind the steering wheel, best I remember. It looks like the wrong side of the car, but I just assumed it had been mirrored or flipped in the process of uploading it to youtube, and everyone is downloading that one.

It does. I’m not one of those All Lives Matter folks, don’t get me wrong, and focusing on incidents that involve white victims also detracts from the larger and very real issues that BLM wants to highly- especially since this is constantly happening to black people. But a blanket statement that it doesn’t happen to…

I find it’s about the clothes. You’ll get arguments this way: a well-dressed (read: business casual) black person carries, OK. One in athletic wear or sagging pants, thug.

Open carry is for white folks. It’s something I frequently ask open carry suporters: how are you going to feel about it when black men start walking around with assault rifles? Of course, they mostly don’t because of things like this..

Yes exactly. Can you imagine the horror of watching someone you care about bleed to death and not even be able to hold on to him or comfort him for fear that you will be murdered in front of your child? This one has really gotten to me.

I think it’s about illusion of control. Once you admit that something like this can happen, it takes away your illusion that the world is safe or that our society makes sense. I think it’s racism on the part of the police of course (whether or not they know it) but not always on the part of the brutality deniers as…

OK let’s try here.

Whoa. I suggest perhaps rereading the entire thread, including your quote which I have already cut and pasted once, at another time. Or not. I really can’t see us having a rational conversation in this context so I’m not going to respond to you anymore.