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"You will be upgraded" was never part of the original Cybermen though - that line only comes from 2006, long after the creation of the Borg. The Borg's motivations are also different - perfection, not just survival. And the idea that the Cybermen are connected to a collective consciousness is a bit of a stretch as

Fail for not mentioning the Rani once.

I really hate this narrative. The Borg and the Cybermen are not the same thing. And Star Trek stole nothing.

She sadly ruled herself out.

Both your statement and mine are correct. The least issue with Attack is fixing the chamelion circuit, and it's pretty much the dumbest episode of the classic series (maybe Time And The Rani, The Twin Dilemma or The Invisible Enemy beat it out. Maybe). Which gives some idea of how bad the rest of it is.

That I can live with.

I know I'm in a minority, but I like what happened to Danny and his arc over Season Eight.

Attempting to fix the chameleon circuity is the very, very, very least of Attack Of The Cybermen's problems…

Maybe Omega watched Arc Of Infinity and decided death was a better alternative than appearing in that load of rubbish?

The "we invented them" line really isn't proof that the Time Lords invented black holes though - the Doctor was being flippant and bigging up himself and his people. And it's never remotely implied in the original series that Time Lords invented black holes, just that they used one to power time travel.

I have to say, full credit to that hole-blowing scene. Because it then cut back to the Doctor telling Bill he was taking Missy for a test-drive to see if she could actually be good, I was fully expecting the fact that Bill got shot to be a "training exercise" in some kind of TARDIS holodeck or VR simulation or

Or good.

I don't agree at all about the Davison-era Cybermen - actually I think they're the best non-Mondas design they've had (and they're miles better than the design of the Cybusmen.

The story to most embrace that approach in the original series was surely Mawdren Undead, which actively takes place in two separate times rather than simply moving between them.

Well, it would give him something to listen to when he arrived.

Bill's fate at the end of the episode was a terrific ending. But…

It must be possible. The eleven Doctors of The Day of The Doctor know there's going to be a twelfth Doctor with the "No sir, all twelve!" line on Gallifrey and the eyebrows shot, so it must be possible for an earlier regeneration of the Master to know about his future as well. Plus the rules are different after the

Would it, though?

It stands up incredibly well (as indeed does the unfairly maligned Ashes To Ashes).

I don't at all agree this was zingless - the reveal of the Cybermen was just one zing, there were so many others that there was enough to keep it going.