I guess there were some women who devalued those jobs, I don’t know, women are never a monolithic group. But for me, and among the women I know, and the stuff I read, the emphasis was always very much that those jobs were important, as well as the job of housewife/mother, and deserved equal respect and pay. I…

Well, and there was forced competition for the few openings in career fields as well. When I graduated high school in 1972, medical schools and law schools still had quotas for the maximum number of women they would admit to each class. Five percent was typical. I wasn’t looking at law schools at that time but in…

Oh, trust me, one day fifth and sixth wavers will be pointing out the assholish things the third and fourth wavers are doing and saying today.

It happened back in the late 19th and early 20th century when “secretary” went from being a man’s job to being a woman’s job.

Agree.

Well it’s probably because I’m old and out of the pop culture loop, but I would be an example to support your hypothesis. I mean, Nina Simone—she’s like, a legend. I guess I’ve kind of heard of Zoe Saldana maybe. Not quite the same league.

exactly.

Squeeeeee!!! love his mind, can’t wait to see what he does with this, ooh ooh happy!

Yes this me too, I love Castro and think he’d be a great pick!

Yes! this is why I have a job where I can wear scrubs.

I’m so sorry. That’s wrong, and has to be painful for you. :(

I’m sorry. That’s really not okay. Is he concerned about what it did to your relationship? Are you even interested in maybe seeing a therapist or something to talk about it with him, or is it just not worth it? Yuck, sorry. :(

I really like this article which is linked elsewhere in the comments:

Just sent that link to my pregnant daughter and son-in-law. Kudos, madame la comtesse!

Personally if that had happened in my daughters’ playgroup I would have LOVED to see somebody in the email chain saying that.

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

Actually I think a LOT of social change comes exactly that way. At first you’re weird; 20-30 years later what you were weird for saying is, duh, of COURSE that’s how it is! So it’s really important to just stick your neck out there and be the one who says the thing.

please make that “most conservative older white cis women.” I mean, not that I’m a pixie. But I’ve fought my ass off for social justice my whole life, and so have a lot of my friends.

That’s kind of the whole point of having a team...

Maybe because you’re not saying you support Hillary. That’s when the shit starts to fly.