This was horrendous. I've said for some time Arrow needs better writers and this was further proof, not that anyone could possibly need it at this stage.

“Men have had a very rough go of it just recently”

I was disappointed and bored by the pilot but this episode restored some of my enthusiasm for the series. Needs to be more fun than it has been or it'll turn into a lesser version of Breaking Bad - which is what the pilot felt like.

Hope so. I was just expecting a stronger start, I didn't think they'd need to waste any time on laying the groundwork because Saul is already an established character. I was expecting it to pick up at a point where Saul already had his business and shady clients, instead of the slow grind to the Saul we know and love…

This was a frustratingly slow setup episode. Any other TV show pilot, one which doesn't have Breaking Bad to lean on, would not get away with an episode this boring.

“Watson, I’ve got every confidence that you could brain a man with a metal tube if you put your mind to it.”

Yeah, I see your point, he was one of the more interesting characters in the English version so that plays into my opinion a lot.

I think there's different degrees of the condition, but the swings from hyperactivity to depression are always present.

Such a brilliantly crafted episode. Quite possibly Elementary's finest hour.

Are we not meant to assume he knows it's Oliver at this point? The writing in this show is so bad at times I lose track - like the secret Verdant door to nowhere Thea just ignores as mentioned above. Silly things like that hold it back. And it's sister show The Flash has annoying plotholes too, like how his normal…

Hmmm… That would tie-in with my theory that Ra's eventually becomes a mentor of sorts to Oliver. I can't imagine the show would kill him off but Oliver returning to Starling City with Ra's still alive doesn't make much sense to me - the League would simply hunt him down and kill him properly, right? As such, they have…

I drew the same conclusion. Think they're trying to sell us on the idea of snow cushioning his fall and hypothermia keeping him alive. Quite how massive internal bleeding or the snapping of his neck didn't kill him, I don't know, but I figure this is one thread we're not supposed to pull at too hard.

"And impersonating your dead sister in voice and body to your dad? Ugh, just tell the poor man already!"

I thought this episode was fairly weak personally, but a somewhat necessary one all the same.

Wasn't there some debate about the need for a "dramedy" (words cannot express how much I hate that word) category a while back?

I'm sure the UK version is tempering my views, but I really don't mind JimmySteve. At least he's a fairly responsible adult who was good with the kids and can still be surprised and disturbed by how fucked up Gallagherland is - despite his own life being similarly fucked up.

The actor who plays Ian does bipolar so well I'm guessing he knows (and has perhaps lived with someone) who suffers from it - as I do. Back when Ian's condition was still speculative, I was convinced he had bipolar because the acting is so impressive, it was blatantly obvious to me (due to the personal experience I've…

They're the best kind of girl. Everyone needs a little crazy in their life.

Never seen Amanda as anything more than a meal ticket and college fling that'll doubtless end with her going full-on bunny boiler.

Yeah, that's the problem I think. As much as the show makes you wish for Frank's demise so his family get a break, it also needs him as the big bad.