We really should be talking about why we would need larger vehicles like cars and pick-ups in crowded city centers in the first place. Cities globally are moving to eliminate cars in the most crowded areas and it makes sense considering they are incompatible with every other piece of city center existence.

“America’s for sale, and you can get a good deal on it...”

MSRP already existed.

If you drive it this much and keep it this clean, odds are you maintained it well and addressed issues immediately. I feel like there’s a Laffer curve in there somewhere of desirability that low cost high miles starts to become attractive in the idea that you know the guy who owned it wasn’t a clown and respected what…

I sold Hummers in the 00s.

My HS somehow got their hands on an all aluminum one for the auto shop kids to use for a gas mileage challenge. It’s been 25 years, and I wasn’t in on it, but I remember my Advanced Materials and Design teacher getting really excited about it.

We have a few younger officers, and they’re the ones pulling $120k.

You’re still buying the marketing here. Saturn sold at MSRP, and convinced you that it was a feature. No one was forcing anyone to negotiate at any dealer except the expectation of a deal.

2 are on admin or suspension right now (10% of force) one for on-duty issues, the other for pistol-whipping a dude in a bar down the shore. They’re still getting paid, but... none of that was reported to the public because of lawsuits flying around, and they buried the news with a settlement and gag order as part of…

Saturn had a “no dicker sticker”. You paid the price on the car, end of story. No negotiation.

Median HHI in my town is $110k. Individually they are above it, and with experience they are 40-50% above it.

I’m in a tiny town in NJ. Houses are $400k+, 1BR apartments are $1800+. But if you’re even at the median, they’re pulling down $150-160k.

Anyone here remember Saturn owners? Not the SC2 guys, but the LW and SL owners. They had some serious doozies of beliefs when it came to cars.

13 bystanders were taken to the hospital as a result of the mass shooting response team.

Look up your locals’ pay. My entire local department is over $120k after OT. They’re paid plenty.

They run articles on Tesla panel gaps too. I don’t read them because I am well aware they are horrific and a Jalopnik article elucidating the subject is not worth my time.

There’s like 12 mainstream car brands, there’s gonna be some overlap. The concept is what brands they like without a great reason, or better misguided passion. The Mustang and Jeep mentions were perfect for that. Or Subie’s near corner on the LGBTQ market, save for the few that went the way of the Wrangler.

As a Mach-E owner, a PHEV would have been fine, but I appreciate it as a fancy commuter and for that it is excellent.

I want to be as cold as the guy who tags a space shuttle.

Get-me-dones rarely refuse, they just need that car and they want it on the road.