They were good for just over 5k pounds, right? I want to say i remember it being a little more than the H3s I used to sell, which was 4500.

The 4.2 was a gem. It was the owners (and cheap plastic and fabrics) that hurt this vehicle. If you are going to the mountains and towing, it’s getting dirty, so the cheap parts are less of an issue.

For how cheap these are getting, the build can easily fit that budget. 2" lift, a few skid plates, lots and lots of Milwaukees Best.

If there’s no beach volleyball I’m going to be pissed.

Haha, how many Zoolander references have made COTD now? I know of at least three.

My first girlfriend with a car had a 1984 Lebaron coupe. Bench seat, manual.

The problem is that it tries to be Top Gear when what it needs to be is a show with three guys having fun with cars in fun situations.

They certainly do, but you can’t tell Uber Black from black cars already doing livery work in the city. So many Escalades, especially in lower Manhattan and the Financial District.

I used to work for a car dealer that did a lot of lease/balloon/”smart buy” agreements with people in NYC. We also had a black Cadillac DTS with 145k on it that looked super clean in our wholesale lot for a few months.

Do you do the same for economists, how heavy is your Rolodex for people to call to confirm information?

There are a few holes in this story.

If you are correct, the environmentally prudent company, as they are so clearly motivated with these innovations, and they are looking to establish a singular NA standard, again, they chose to support the weakest of any NA standard. That’s it. That’s the issue with your argument.

If... and let’s follow your posits here... Toyota’s primary concerns were the 50 state standard, as well as being environmentally conscience, why then would they be behind the weaker environmental standard? Are you sure that it has nothing to do with there being more profit margins in larger, less efficient vehicles?

Counter-Counterpoint: Really you’re dropping Kaizen into this? Did you just watch their training module before taking your Toyota University test? Want to buy my black polo I was given for passing all of those tests? I’ll use the pen they gave me for correcting mistakes in their Avalon training module to write your…

Donohue and Penske.

Those were the best wheels on the thing, especially compared to the standard XR and XRS wheels.

Matrix M-Theory

I think people who deliberately participate in things like shortening yellow lights, or arbitrarily lowering speed limits for the purposes of gaining ticket revenue should be fined 10% of whatever their improper change caused if caught.

Nah, the XLR was a much longer hood.

This isn’t Denny’s?