He was a complex man. He said certain things that I found very offensive, but he also was extremely honest about his own struggles and failings. I got the impression he was a man who was trying very hard to be a better person.

I think the normal comedy defense of “pushing boundaries” to be kind of weak most of the time. Like, yeah, some comedians who are brilliant are also great at pushing boundaries. But many are just going for the easiest dick joke- saying the most outrageous thing isn’t funny, it’s just outrageous.

Come on! He’s not Hitler so everything should be forgiven.

I have been making this point again and again. So far, all that’s really happened from #metoo is that a few millionaires have been forced to retire early. No one has been physically harmed or stripped of their freedom. Or even received criminal charges, as far as I know. The hand-wringing about these men is wildly…

You read the Weinstein article and the major complaints are she was shrill, loud, and bossy. One of the complaints is literally her yelling at the Weinstein brothers when they fought and getting them to make up. Oh, and when he was growing up, “she was the boss, not him.” Imagine that. A mother thinking she was the…

That article was so suspect to me——men are now more cautious (hence burdened, like theyre going through something WORSE or equal to harassment /assault /rape) and bohoo isn’t that terrible. ZERO sympathy towards victims. ZERO acknowledgement that women have had like, multiple anxieties at once about pleasing/not…

Also why the fuck did they let a man write this story about how a man should be able to rise from fucking over women? I would like to see more stories from women about how men like Louis CK can do basic rehab (Years of therapy! Genuine contrition! etc etc)

The thing is, those quotes more about the trend in profiles than CK. We have to get it through our heads that men who do this shit are not doing it because of their tortured souls and that anger, though unpleasant for them to face, is the right reaction. If the person doing the writing could get that through their…

I would never have thought to pull those Bancroft quotes into the Louis CK conversation- brilliantly done. Finding his work was crucial for me getting through a very ugly (ongoing) custody battle with my abuser, and sharing Bancroft’s work (the book you mentioned, plus “The Batterer as Parent”) helped my family…

But why though?

Paul Rubens jerked off in a porn theater. He didn’t sexually harass anyone.  

My cousin was in a on and off relationship with a guy who was just terrible, and I once got her this book on the advice of my therapist, only for her to tell me her therapist had just loaned her the same book.

“difficult to work with” is just code for “was sexually harassed/assaulted and didn’t keep her mouth shut”

This needs more stars.

wow that second quote really resonates. the privilege or rage.... no shit

Plus, what about all the banks I DIDN’T rob?

Where are all the articles about women who were branded “difficult to work with” and are in need of a comeback????

Very convenient how that article didn’t feature male comedians like Hari Kondabolu or W. Kamau Bell (granted, he doesn’t live in NYC, but still) who seem to be able to still do the same/very similar jokes as they did before the #metoo conversation started last fall. I guess interviewing male comedians who don’t need…

The consensus is that while his behavior was clearly wrong it was not at the level of a Harvey Weinstein, James Toback or Bill Cosby.

To all these profilers I prescribe the book “Why Does He Do That,” by Lundy Bancroft, a counselor who worked with abusive men.