Thats good stuff thank you! I have no doubt she would have been better for working class. Here in Ohio I have felt that there has been zero Democrat presence fighting for Labor since Kasich began his plan of turning us into indentured servants. I just think the Democrats “Ground game” was no where near as strong as…

I apologize. I don’t think I’m saying what I want in a very effective manner. For years poor whites voted Democrat. Through economic lies and racial/gender baiting, the Republicans have swayed alot of these people. At the same time Democrats have failed to court them.

The Ny times reported that 67% of non college educated whites voted Trump, so I would disagree with your assessment. Thats the only stat Ive seen so if there is something more fleshed out I’d love to get a better idea of what went wrong

I’m in no way saying those middle class white people didnt vote for Trump. But their votes were nearly even with Clinton. White college educated men voted something like 53% Trump to 47% Clinton. Non college educated white men voted something like 70 - 25 for Trump. In Ohio I can tell you that the Democrats have…

Because 67% of them voted for Trump. If you lose an election and a large segment of the largest group of voters comes out against you it would behoove you to figure out how to win them over.

No one wants to hear this and its a sensitive time so I’m going to say this with all apologies for offense, because I sincerely love the discussion I get to be a part of here.

It seems more and more apparent to me how badly the Democrats have abandoned lower class white labor.

I feel like I’m trying to explain an injustice but something that I’ve come to understand is that for 25 years the Democrats have ignored poor to lower middle class white Labor, assuming they would just follow along.

I’m not flaming anyone. I get how upsetting this is, I cant even verbalize to alot of people how disgusted I am in trump.

Yeah but now I get to listen to that song in a totally different way. Also I’m definitely going to use that info to be a dismissive hipster and correct people as if Ive always known it.

I honestly never knew that thank you! I am tthe wordt at not paying attention to lyrics.

Rob Portman Republican Rep from my district personally handed my kid candy at a parade. Ive already mailed him to very politely remind him that a vote for him ( not because of the candy, because Strickland is too unforgivable to vote for) was not a vote for Trump. And I did add that if he went all in with Trump I…

You know Id argue with you but I just noticed Loco Jones has been rec’ing me. Whatever conclusions Ive tried to draw from these past days have to be wrong. I’m halving my opinions and doubling my drinking. Which will probably quadruple my opining but at least you’ll have respite while I consume.

Ive come to grips with Brooks going like Inhave my 95 year old grandpa but Tom Waits jesus that would shake me. Every Sunday morning I wake up on 3 Hours sleep after a Long nights work. I make pancakes for the kids and go back to work. On the way I always listen to Cold Water and Cmon up to the House. I’m br beatin…

God dammnit man

Thank you for taking the time to flesh that out. I wasnt getting that point and now I do. All apologies if I come off too dickish. Its been a shit two days and I just found out goddamned Leonard Cohen dies? 50ish days left in this godforsaken year and I curse everyone of them. .

“Like a babe stillborn.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMIIIIIIITTTTTTTT 2016! Fuck you to death fuck you with a rusty spike fuck this bullshit fucking year!

I’m realizing I’m going to probably end up greyed again after today but man we have t o ease up.

Id add Attel to that. Carlin is my first comedy love. Stanhope is amazing, getting paid to make people laugh and spending that time trying to make them too uncomfortable to laugh? He is incredible.