It’s unfortunate that Musk is such a tool. It’s inarguable that he’s been the head of some significant shifts in “what’s possible,” with regards to solar, EVs, internet. But damn, WHAT A DICK. I seriously consider getting a used Model S with free supercharging but I just don’t want my “brand” associated with his…

Writer: you’ve got one thing 100% WRONG. You wrote, “all the seats fold flat perfectly.”

BMW got derailed from taste by the onslaught of big grilles. They got caught in the headlights, as it were, and missed their identity options. They had three brand icons: The Hofmeister kink, the twin kidneys and the quad of round lamps.

Thanks for reminding me about the lack of rear wiper. Criminal. Same with the Model X and Y. Super annoying. Cameras don’t do it all. LOVE the Ioniq 5 but that could send me to an Audi Q4 Etron. 

I’ve got a 2014 NV2500 V8 High Roof. After 2 BMWs, 7 Volvos, 4 Siennas, 3 Saab 9-5s.. all good cars, I have to say, the NV2500 is THE best vehicle I’ve ever owned. Even serviced at the dealer (because that high roof doesn’t fit in most garages) most services cost me $78.oo. It’s been insanely reliable. I shift it like…

Cool! Me neither. I won’t pay taxes. OH WAIT! I want educated workers, bridges that don’t fall down, libraries, police, fire fighters and chemicals kept out of our food, plus some other stuff. Ok. I’m cooler than Elon and I actually WANT to pay taxes. Musk: You suck.

Love this.

I think they’re all up in Sonoma County. I see, probably, five at least, a day. I still love it. Chic, smart. Too bad the range isn’t more va VA VOOM!

I’m that guy that’s going to say, “I’ve had 30 cars and my 9-5 wagon was one of my most favorites.” Actually, I had three and loved them all. They’re a blast to drive, stealthly fast, and for me, 100% dependable (though I never let miles get this high). Since it’s maintained, I’m Nice Price.

Good! In 1992 I had a perfectly comfortable Civic VX with no hybrid, no plug and as much rear leg room as an E-Class, that got 52mpg. That’s incredible and it was THIRTY years ago.

I just rode in a Lyft Hyundai Kona EV. The driver/owner said it costs, at a charge point (not your house) about $8.00 for 200 miles of energy. Not set in stone, but that’s a real-life owner talking. 

Totally agree. I definitely wish it had a wiper on it though.

I’m right there with you. “The car” concept has been static for a while. SUVs crept in, but nothing has changed my take on what I idealize as “my perfect vehicle” as much as the Ioniq 5. Admittedly, I’m a bit of a brand snob and before the Ioniq 5 there is no way I’d have considered a Hyundai. That has changed. Design…

Are the touch capacitative sliders for climate as annoying when bouncing thought the rough stuff as they are impossible in a parking lot?

When you think about the icons of efficiency, the Prius, the first gen Honda Insight, VW 1-Litre car.. they’re all that teardrop shape. Assuming the common -shape denominator is more like the Audi Sportback, it makes sense that the slicker shape is the more efficient. 

Bummer. Those new capacitive buttons are total garbage. They’re like replacing your windows with Saran Wrap because it’s different, rather than functional.

I don’t disagree and I’ll add, the precise, design austerity of Audis from 10 years ago has left the room to be replaced by a much more [10 years ago] American design aesthetic. They all have so many fake mesh panels, elaborate “fenders” and swage lines... Audi is almost baroque at this point. Yet, with that dis, I’ll…

In defense of CR, they’ve been right about every car I’ve had. 87' Golf, Volvo 850: Average. Honda Civic VX, Toyota Sienna: Excellent. Their podcast is balanced and you’d be surprised how often they rave about the new Corvette.

Blah blah.. you all said it but what I can’t tolerate is that they both have that same, over-designed, dripping mascara detail under the tail lights. It’s bad once, pathetic on both models.

I cannot wait for the Ioniq 5. This car exemplifies what design does for a brand. Never, ever would I have wanted, CRAVED a Hyundai before. This is transformative. The lights, the shape, the minimalist styling. It. Is. Rad.