It's the budget that does it. You could see with this scene there were a lot of computer generated effects and a few corners cut. With Heat it's very specific insomuch as every shot fired has an answering squib on its point of impact. With Heat watching it again what defines that scene versus so many others isn't the…

I thought that was the best bit. I think if she'd just pulled a knife and gone to work like something out of a superhero movie it would have been crap. Instead she eventually pulls a knife, having used up all the ammo she has or can find, and even then she's clearly absolutely shitting herself at the prospect.

I think this season will end up being defined by how the series handles the fallout from the battle. I mean you don't get to have something like six cops (if I counted right, could be more) killed, civilians murdered en masse and Mexican gangsters going to war on the streets of a US town and just be like, "Well, that…

I was thinking that. Very Heat. Really captured the terrifying destructive power of fully automatic weapons at work in close quarters in a way that most TV/film doesn't even try.

I just hope, if she must wave pointy knives around, she doesn't run with them. Accident waiting to happen that.

Yeah I thought about that having watched it a couple of times. I think Boyd lied, I don't think he intended to hunt Ava or Raylan, he just wanted to say the only thing that might persuade Raylan to kill him. And I don't think Raylan believed him.

I thought this was one of the best episodes, could have been a season 1 or 2 ep. The stuff with the cops was great, especially that final True Detective bit at the end. The Chang line about being under-utilized, in the context of the entire series to date, was spectacularly good. Felt like a joke that had been at…

Yeah it's sad about Ava and Boyd. If just one of their shared dreams had come true the whole mess could have ended with a lot fewer bodies.

I dunno. I think Boyd was better than his daddy. I think Boyd would have made a good dad. Arlo was a lousy outlaw and a lousy father, Bo was too in different ways.

He should play pretty much everybody in anything.

Loved the show, very sad to see it go but happier that it went on its own terms than dragged on.

Ellen May isn't dead, least not as I remember. How'd that happen?

I felt bad for that guy. His relationship with Loretta has put him in a lot of trouble in the past, but there he is again, come running to her help. And Boone just guns him down and leaves him there for Markham to finish off. I mean we don't know how long he's lying there, bleeding and wheezing, seems like it's a long…

The truck thing didn't make enough sense. I mean I get that this guy had a truck that was used to smuggle people out of the area on occasion for whatever reason, which is why Boyd sought him out. But they didn't explain why the truck could do that, or why the guy driving it wasn't an important part of that arrangement.

But to beat Adair Raylan had to be smart. If he ends up in a fair fight, on equal terms, that could end badly.

Yeah come to think on it, empty chamber or not, when he actually fired the cylinder should have spun a live round in. The empty chamber should come up when trying to fire for the sixth time, not the first. I'm probably wrong though, I only know a little bit about it.

I think the reviewer touched on but missed the real heart of the feud between Boyd and Raylan. It works out like this:

I would. If I was a betting man I'd put my money on Boone to kill Raylan. Or for them to kill each other.

The empty chamber thing is interesting, because it's a real thing for old timey revolvers. Somebody who knows more will probably clear up the details, but my understanding is that with the hammer forward the firing pin is resting against the back of the round in the cylinder (if that cylinder is loaded). This is…

Yeah I think so too. I mean she's shooting through his torso, so you know he's a goner eventually, but death takes time. It was almost jarring because of the way that the show so often portrays shootings as quick and fairly painless.