This was always OBL’s stated intentions. He was never going to win a physical war. He didn’t have the armament or the people. He knew that. So he set out to completely disrupt our way of life and have us make choices based on fear rather than intelligence.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same results.

I try my best in this day and age. I know it can be difficult to come by.

I hear you.

Ok. so that’s where I would disagree, but fair enough.

not misinformation to the populace if not driven by the candidate.

People may have changed their mind based on false information, but votes weren’t lost or manipulated.

The (R) are much much better at creating a boogieman and sticking to that.

No one wants to hear your presidential election recap right now!

This is your entire misunderstanding in a nutshell...

Ugh... I get that mix up just going from my Dodge to my Toyota :-(

I see you guys were playing the speed version.....

I see you guys were playing the speed version.....

Bullshit. Nobody likes the tuna here.

I know I know it’s not a movie. But this is one of the times it worked so damn well...(and it’s still a trailer for something!)

This is 100% true.

Has he?

I don’t think these things have to be mutually exclusive. You can be maniacally devoted until you aren’t anymore.

At the pro-level? If you’re planning to be successful? Sure, there’s a spectrum, but it _starts_ at maniacally devoted and goes more intense from there.~1,000,000 high school football players become ~72k College of which about 2% make it to the pros at all...

Agree to disagree here I guess.

Yes... and due to the fact that the bucket weighed nearly _double_ what might be anticipated... (i’ll quote from the article here to help you along)..