pauljones
pauljones
pauljones

That's a very pretty, very elegant car. I like the different take on combining design cues that other manufacturers have been tinkering with and synthesizing them into something coherent and attractive.

Yeah, that's something I didn't quite calculate out very well. I know that the base price for an 88 Cherokee turns into about $22k in 2013 dollars, but then as someone pointed out above, a 1995 model that went for $22k in 1995 would go for almost $35k today.

Sorry, I think you've been missing my point too. But first, regarding the Viper, it's still on the same platform (i.e. a non-monocoque chassis, slightly tweaked). I'm sure you already know this, but the Viper redesign was relatively low cost, with the entire program probably not even reaching a tenth of what it cost

I don't have a scanner, but otherwise I would show you a 1988 brochure in which the base price was $11,377 in 1988, which translates into $22,327.58 in 2013.

Wait till you see the lounging Spirit of Ecstasy on the droptop version of the Wraith.

You're right, they could sell this thing as the Dodge Dreamfucker with roughly the same results.

I think you missed a great deal of the point, and then threw some other random stuff in there.

That about sums it up. Well said, Mr. Frawley.

I'm not suggesting that it doesn't make a big difference. Rather, I pointed out (and quite correctly) that there are examples of IS-equipped vehicles doing just fine off-road.

I left that off, though, because there are instances of the IRS-equipped vehicles doing just fine off-road.

Well, you can certainly say that about the weight argument, and I acknowledged as much above. As for the simplicity argument... you can still buy some comparatively simple cars. Hell, you can still buy cars with roll-up windows. The price thing, though would be an interesting research project; I'd be willing to bet

They probably wouldn't resonate with actual buyers, either, but what can you do. The market will get what it wants.

To counter that, here's six ways it's actually worse than the XJ Cherokee:

It does indeed. I actually have it as a wallpaper on computer. I haven't done something like that in years. The only problem with the CTS is something it had no control over: I saw the interior of the upcoming S-class before I saw the interior of the new CTS. The interior of the new CTS looks good, but I would sell a

Chevette.

Looks, mainly. I realize that that is a completely subjective measure. But I just think that certain aspects of the exterior are over-exaggerated (namely, those front wheel arches). Other than that, I'm good with it.

Possibly, but the catch with that is that there are contemporary designs that I do find attractive. I like the Fusion, the CTS, the Taurus, the 6-series, the Focus, etc. It's not that I don't find modern design to be appealing so much as it is that I'm an impossibly nitpicky curmudgeon with really high standards.

Well, now that you've finished, here's a couple of things that you're missing:

Wait a minute... I thought that the Camaro with the 1LE option package was supposed to fill this niche? Also, those taillights, now that they can be clearly seen, are horrible. It's not that they are necessarily aesthetically offensive in anyway in and of themselves; they just don't belong with the rest of the design

On a completely unrelated note, now that I have seen high-res pictures of them, I hate the new taillights. They are awful.