Avatars mean fuck all. Commenting in the right time zone means a hell of a lot more because Kinja is a fucked up broken platform. It's a shame because it puts off plenty of people who otherwise would want to engage in the community. Ain't your fault though so don't think I'm having a go at you or anything.

Nah bro, I've been grey forevers despite visiting here for like 2 years now. Avatars don't help shit!

No worries.

She's not equating the headscarf to blackface. She's equating this woman's intention to wear blackface to blackface.

It's a ginormous problem. Google India+rape. Look up 'Eve teasing' , the cutesy wutesy name for street sexual harassment. Check out the stories of women murdered by their own families because they were raped. The reason this crime sparked mass, month long public protests is because it was the straw that broke the…

As has been pointed out elsewhere not every Indian feminist is opposed to the language, but yes more could and should have been done to involve Indians in the documentary. I would have liked to have seen much more from Justice Leila Seth for example.

Just the UK for now. Aren't you guys getting it on Sunday when it was meant to be originally aired?

What? This has been going on for fucking ever. What makes you think it's only just started happening?

In the documentary I saw a protestor's banner which had India's daughter emblazoned across it, and Jyoti's mother uses the phrase too. I suspect that (and a lack of awareness of Indian feminist language) is where the name came from.

Ok, who just watched this? I need to talk about this and decompress because right now I am incoherent with rage.

I used NSA as a shorthand since this is an American site. Our version is GCHQ and they did the same shit the NSA did. The government has repeatedly tried to introduce new bills which erode personal rights and freedoms, despite vast opposition to it. It's required to 'combat terrorism' they say. Bollocks to that.

I'd say they're trying to trade our freedom for the mere illusion of security.

Yep. These aren't three random kids - they're three kids whose friend ran away to Syria and who had contacted a known terrorist. I kinda do think they should have been on the authorities radar.

Three kids who were recently interviewed after their mutual friend absconded to Syria, who messaged a known terrorist? Yeah.

ISIS is such a touchy subject that it makes people lose their minds. These children - and that's what they are - have been brainwashed by an organisation that is INCREDIBLY adept at grooming and propaganda. They are no different to children groomed by paedophiles or gangs, and victim blaming will neither bring them…

These girls are groomed the way gangs or paedophiles groom kids. It is not their fault.

I'm not saying the parents have no responsibility here. I'm saying that YET AGAIN our security services aren't seeing risks that are happening right under their noses.

Guys - this isn't about the parents passing the blame - who yes, do seem a little lax/complacent/naive/whatever.

It's not because they're expecting the police to parent their kids, it's because Mahmood is an extremely well known terrorist whose social media accounts are supposedly under surveillance. That a child - who was interviewed by police not 2 months ago due to her friend running away to Syria - could contact this woman…

Oh no Kate it's not pink, its fuchsia.