Yes, you're right, being bullied by some MRA dude-bro to "prove" that the aestheticization of sexual violence is gendered and promotes rape culture is giving up. Don't pretend like you were ever open to having this conversation in an honest way. Agreeing to disagree is one thing, but chucking a rock at me as I do so…

Wow, okay, so we've reached that portion of the discussion. I'm offended by EVERYTHING and therefore nothing I say has any value or logic. Meanwhile, you are over here saying that death by electricity is comparable to sexual assault.

You are missing the point, but this is pretty much what I thought you'd say. Except for that electricity bit - wow, what a feeble comparison.

I disagree. The issue here is not the gender of the person enacted upon but the gendered connotation of the act itself and its shared cultural meaning. As in, sexual violence against women is an aestheticized act in our entertainment culture, and the person who enters this simulation does so because the titillation…

Thank you, this gets to what's really bothering me a lot here. The asshole sociologist is going on about Americans being sexually uptight and using this to explore our boundaries, but it seems like an extremely gendered scenario that is just more of the same aestheticized sexual violence against women, marketed as…

That's because it's an attention-hungry troll.

Why so many shoes? Because patriarchy has placed a premium on female visual attractiveness in a way that it has not for males. Next question?

The heroine's so immature and inexperienced she refers to her genitalia as "down there. " Every time they have sex it's like he's invading Australia.

I can't believe people are entertaining this guy, especially the pretentious cultural context person. He's clearly glommed on to some idea that rape is being made out to be more than it really is, or some such thought. If not, there's a thousand+ personal accounts of rape victims all over the internet. Geez,…

You're a great example of how dewdz excuse sexism and perpetuate it. If the "world wasn't fair" to dewdz like this, you'd scream to heaven for revenge. When it's women, dewdz just shrug it off

Big step in Human development gets disqualified to window draping, once its suspected womenz might have had something to do with it. News, at 11h.

You are quite mistaken there. You really think they listen to women? Even hot ones? Yeah, right.

You're fuckable enough that it's a shame you're not on my side.

"piping hot, fresh urine" ... a) excellent imagery and b) if it comes out piping hot, you may wanna get that checked out.

Though... Dude sticks his finger up people's buts for a living (or something like that, hey, I'm not the doctor).

Unfortunately it was a bit of a shrug and a "whatever, just cuz she's not that into it doesn't mean she's not cool with me finishing" :(

Seriously scary. Especially since viewing crying as a manipulation tool and denying that it's a sincere expression of distress goes right along with that, and if you put the two together, this is some serious psychopathic, predatory shit.

YES. This exact phrase came up in a conversation with a couple of my male friends. One said he hated it when women "starfish", and the other said something like, "dude, if she's starfishing you have to stop and ask if things are good. If she just tells you to go ahead, or finish, or whatever, don't! Jesus. She's…

I for one won't allow tears to be used against me as a weapon. I won't allow her to be a dead starfish in bed.

I always thought the "blank panties = sexy sex" thing was hilarious, because to me black panties = period underwear.