Wow, someone can look at a picture and make a dumb comment, shocking. How about maybe doing a little research next time. The update includes over 300 part changes including things like adaptive LED headlights, a faster onboard charger, the BioDefense HEPA filter from the Model X, interior decor changes, new rear…

This is the very simple point you are missing, Tesla is not classifying Model S as anything, the gov’t agencies are. You keep trying to make this out as Tesla trying to do something for their advantage but it is the EPA and the EU Commissions that put Model S in this class. It was also my point to you that I who…

It’s more than just the grill. From the shareholder letter :”We introduced the Model S refresh in April, with the largest single set of hardware changes (nearly 300 part changes in total) on Model S to date. Updates include an enhanced look for the front of the car, adaptive (LED) headlights, faster charging and more…

You can keep explaining it away all you want but this is how Sales figures are done. Cars classes are determined by the EPA/EU Commission based on Volume. Consumer will then cross shop based on price point as well. You can make up nonsense examples all you want but I actually worked at Tesla for 4 years and all of…

Try getting your facts right. The cheapest Model S starts at over $70k and the Average Sale Price is still over $100k which is why is it compared to cars that cost $70-$100k.

S Class sales figures come straight from MB and all of the other figures are straight from their Mfg as well. MB sells about 100,00 S Class a year with the US accounting for only 25% of that and China accounting for 50% of it. All of the cars listed above make up the large luxury segment and more importantly the price…

Yet they are outselling BMW, Audi, MB, Porsche and everyone else in their segment. Sales don’t lie. They just released a refresh about two weeks ago(Refresh on bottom)...

Now that Jimmy Joe Bob’s positions have been confirmed, the world can move on existing exactly as it was yesterday.

So let me just make sure I am getting your position straight.

I’m done discussing Climate Change with you because no matter how much sense someone makes, you are clearly set in your views. The giant thing you miss is that Climate Change is only small portion of the equation.

Following the money is extremely important. When you follow the vast majority of the money funding climate change denial, you see that it comes from the oil industry but you want to ignore that. When people who don’t have in depth knowledge, like yourself, start looking at numbers they don’t fully understand this is…

There you go again with your tin foil hat. Making assumptions about where other people get their information. You are making the same nonsense denial claims that I am hearing from the Trump supporters, so nice group to associate with. I actual happen to have friends that are scientists that have done the actual work…

I was going to apologize for the loony comment earlier but now I’m glad I didn’t. Anyone who is going to deny Climate change is an issue is definitely loony. But don’t worry folks, Jimmy Joe Meeker is more than qualified for the job. Let’s not trust a consensus of all of the World’s scientist, because JMJ has taken…

You still haven’t riped bare a single argument, all you have done is misinterpreted things to your own liking. You want to be a Libertarian, that’s fine. I don’t have any desire to tell someone how to live their life. The issue is when it comes to something like Climate Change. This affects everyone and one of the…

Wow, I did not quite realize how much of a “gov’t is the devil” kind of loony you were. I now regret having responded to any communication in the first place. What a waste of time.

You really are pulling things from thin air now. You seem to have a comprehension problem. Tesla had already gotten an investment from Daimler and had a $50MM services contract from Toyota. Those two things alone were enough to get Model S production started. They also had money from Roadster sales and could have…

They are created to accelerate change. Tesla did not need the ATVM loan as they have stated many times. What the ATVM loan allowed them to do was accelerate their plans for production of Model S. Tesla through Roadster Sale profits, Battery Deals and private equity was already on its way to Model S production. It…

If you want a true free market, you then need to eliminate subsidies on all sides. Eliminate the gas subsidies and see how many traditional gas cars are sold when gas is $12-15/gallon. Car sales started plummeting at $5/gallon. If you did that, there would be zero need for the Alt fuel credits. You are also not…

Oh really. Let’s take a look at this then.

You are very misinformed. The states that hold these direct sales laws, strictly forbid Car Manufacturers from franchising to themselves. These laws are specific to car sales, so your Jet Blue example really has no meaning.