Hey now, there are dozens of us! I LOVE what Harley is doing in recent years. Money no object, I’d buy a Livewire tomorrow and smile every mile. I’d even get that Pan America they’re coming out with. Recently rode the Freewheeler trike and I actually understand the Harley appeal now.

how about a CT-6? AWD. GORGEOUS (IMO), has the GM 3.6 liter which is really reliable... and back seat space for days. Plus a 2019 can be had near new for that budget.

Then perhaps an electric car is not for you, yet, unfortunately.

Being a Wisconsin native, I am absolutely rooting for HD to succeed and be the image that young rides wanted 50 years ago.

What’s more convenient then plugging it in every night when you get home? Are you regularly driving 250-300 miles a day? If so, then yeah, it’s not for you. 

I feel like 70% of HD riders are great people; it’s just that the 30% are by far the loudest (pun intended) part.

Agreed. If I was in charge I would keep the core bikes they currently sell right where they are and then have a totally separate branding (Buell??) for a new line of smaller cc bikes that are a lot cheaper and not intimidating to the beginner to novice rider. Even if you don’t use the Buell name (you should) make it…

Same here. When I had my Lowrider years ago I purposely never dressed in the typical HD biker costume. No branded merch, no black t-shirts, no leather vest just a good riding jacket with ff helmet. No loud pipes either. Too many look at me jackasses out there as it was. I just liked the bike for what it was, and…

I don’t want them to fail, I want them to evolve. Their image is as old as their customer base and that isn’t sustainable. They have ignored so many retro bike trends that they could have moved into seamlessly while pushing for one that doesn’t make sense for them (electric). After a while it becomes frustrating to…

I do agree that the persona of the “typical” Harley rider is not the best look.  I do have a black and orange Harley leather I wear sometimes but like you I normally ride solo or with one other person.  I am not on my bike to make noise, I could just cut the muffler off my car if that was the case.  I feel like most…

checking in..own a Harley and enjoy riding it. If you dont like them...dont buy them? Maybe its more fun to be filled with sanctimonious hatred and explain that hate while attaching a GIF of that one southpark episode. Not to mention American companies failing is not really a good thing to cheer for.

You’re not alone, some of actually like HD. As with God, it’s not the man I hate so much, but the followers. I love my Sportster, but I do genuinely dislike being associated with many of the asshats that ride HD. I ride solo, don’t rock fringes or black leather, and wave to every other rider on the road. I just like…

It’s ironic that some of the people hate on Harleys are the ones that will buy loud, crappy aftermarket exhausts for their bikes, and ride with tank tops and sandals. So basically trying to adopt the Harley look on a little sportbike. And then weave all over the place on the highway revving up their little fartcan.

Very cool set up but for this money I could get an actual purpose built motorhome with more space, a real bathroom, slideouts, and a more reliable powertrain.

Bradley, I feel you and I are the only people on this site that would like to see Harley succeed. I don’t understand all the hate towards the brand, if you don’t like them just don’t ride them. I bought my first Harley when I was 21 (2004) and fell in love with riding. Really hoping Harley can bring out a new smaller…

Twin cooled engines have watercooled cylinder heads. Anything “aircooled” is technically cooled by the oil. That’s why old Porsche 911s have 12 quart oil tanks.

That’s generally how crate engines work, yes. HD needs to do many new things to survive, but they also need to keep normal operations too. Not every single thing they do will be taking them into the future.

“Yeah but my commute is 316 miles”

You’ve just described every crossover on the planet. 

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I think they’ve announced a small streettracker to be built in China, iirc.