When you have a pretty stellar history and make a whoopsie you do get a bit of a pass. Especially if you make it right (Toyota frame rust?), but if you continually fuck up and don’t ever make it right, that is a bigger issue.

Gets a pass? What are you talking about? They’re getting raked through the coals on forums, blogs and vlogs, etc. I’ve never heard so much chatter of one manufacturer losing the plot. And that’s probably precisely because they’ve had such a stellar reliability reputation. Similar shit happened to Kia/Hyundai, and…

GM be like “oopsie, here is a TSB instead, tee-hee!”

“American Airlines’ contract of carriage does allow passengers to be removed if they smell bad, as it requires passengers to “be respectful that your odor isn’t offensive”

Him: pointing out that we are addressing the core issue inefficiently and to prevent traffic deaths the priority should be elsewhere and states proven facts.

I’ll just leave this 2023 article from NHTSA here so you can wallow in your own crapulance. And stats show that about 10% of folks do not wear a seatbelt, so half the deaths come from 10% of the population.

Nien. You seem to have issues with inference and just see what you want to. PLEASE feel free to quote where he says speeding is “a ok”. I’ll wait.... but i wont hold my breath.

He never said that, stop being asinine. He’s saying there are bigger issues we can address that are being ignored.

You’re missing the point. Speed is far more reckless, and the data shows, when it is uncontrolled (drunks) or not protected at impact (unbelted). Those 2 categories contain 50% all all deaths. And yet only 10% are unbelted and no where close to 50% are drunk, so those 2 categories are around 10X more dangerous.  

How much you want to bet the NIMBYs that forced this thing through are the same California drivers that drive around in the rain with no lights on (for the two months it does rain in Cali). Never mind that you don’t need working brakes, turn signals, tires with tread, or anything else really in California, as long as…

Indeed. Nothing tops Tesla, especially not with their cybertruck.

To make this thread interesting, should have put “not a Tesla” in the question line.

Frankly, 2 things that would save way more lives, be easier to implement, and would not introduce Big Brother tracking:

...yet governments can’t mandate automatic headlights AND TAIL LIGHTS that turn on when it gets dark.

My mom has a somewhat older (2015) Model S.

This framing plays on a fallacy of its own, the false analogy. Presenting economy numbers is for the purpose of comparing one car against another, not for comparing one replacement scenario against another completely different replacement scenario.

The problem with stealing a Tesla is that then you have a Tesla: You’re literally stealing a burden that will try to kill you at every turn and that everyone with a brain would mock you for having.

To hell with the enviornment, I make +50hp on E85 vs 93!

It’s almost like actual life is filled with subtle contextual situations and large numbers of visual cues that all have to be processed near-instantaneously, and computers are not adept at this, and wont be....

If I die getting hit by an EV don’t tell anyone please.