But my flight is next week!!!!!!!

I don't think you meant to reply to my comment.

My god, that's perfect!

You mean these aren't going to be good in the snow??? WOW what an amazing goddamn revelation! Thanks for the fucking news!

This is the dumbest headline I've seen here in recent memory. Putting summer tires on an AWD car and then calling AWD worthless is just plain stupid.

We should just assume everyone is guilty of a crime and they have to prove their innocence before they can drive?

I've had a couple of the older 200s and Sebrings as loaners over the last few years and while I didn't like them much, they weren't the worst cars I've ever driven, not even close. The worst new car I've ever driven was a friend's leased Mitsubishi Colt. That was just the definition of "penalty box". Slow, unsafe in…

That's kind my point...

OK...I haven't driven the same cars as you.

It's really annoying that they are still lumping the HD's in with the LD's - especially because you know truecar has the data on a model specific basis. It totally skews the results, certainly not enough to change any absolute rankings, but enough to make you wonder. Very cool chart. Thanks for sharing.

My point was that even with aluminum, they're only a couple hundred pounds lighter than the competition, and didn't really gain much in the fuel economy department. Does it help? Maybe. Is it a game changer? No.

I don't see how aluminum is a game changer. They're barely lighter than the competition, while not really getting any better fuel mileage. The only dray I can see is 10 years down the road with no body rust.

I think of it kind of like: "How can Europeans simultaneously be both in touch and out of touch with how cultures other than theirs work?"

I don't believe they need a union. The Toyota plant in Cambridge near where I work is not unionised and the employees have great wages, great benefits, and they are actually rewarded for good work!

It's not that impressive once you realize that four of these can do the same thing.

wow that was some horrible driving. very early braking and did we forget to hit half the apexes?

Is it just me or did the guy doing the driving almost never use the brakes? Each of those cars could've picked up another two or three seconds if he was on power until braking. Instead he guns it and then coasts up to every turn in. I'm not a very good driver but even I know that.

This should be several different comparos honestly. Comparing GT vs. Hellcat vs. Z28 is like comparing a steak knife to a machete to a scalpel. Should be:
1. Mustang GT vs. Challenger RT vs. Camaro SS 2LE
2. Mustang GT500 (if they make it) vs. Hellcat vs. ZL1
3. Mustang GT350 vs. Challenger RT Scat Pack (or SRT) vs. Z28

Lol. Is there any part of this thing that doesn't scream "cheap"?

"They also lost TOTY to the Chevy Colorado in a market they abandoned when they stopped selling the Ford Ranger. We'll see what happens when the trucks go on sale."