I'll take em both.

Two Pontiac's and they're both from the island of hoon. I approve.

Is there something here to be upset about though? Did they really call it a "chick car" in the typical close minded bro way? All I see is the same car styled two different ways and gender being used as a succinct way of describing each. For the most part they seem to be the same chassis, powertrain, and features only…

As someone who owns a G8...

Perhaps I'm overstating it. It's by no means completely boring but 500hp today can be so civil and unassuming unless you really are trying to wring it all out. And when you drive it everyday its gets a bit comfortable like an old shoe. I still love it but honestly everything makes so much horsepower nowadays. I'm sure…

I agree. As someone who currently DDs a 500hp V8 machine. It's boring and dull just like any other car you drive day to day. Well only louder and worse on gas. Most of the time you're using the normal amount everyone else has only I suppose I can get to the speed limit just a tick quicker. I sit in traffic the same, I…

I'm gonna need you to break down this car equals Big Mac analogy. Because from my understanding that car I'm still paying for 4 years later can take me across the country and provide me a way to get to work and make money. Whereas the Big Mac I've probably dropped in a toilet two hours later extracting all usefulness…

You're probably right. I'm not qualified to masturbate over military equipment and tactics. It's my fault for clicking on and reading your intro paragraph which failed to convince me to do something other than skim the article. I'm smart enough to know when I'm out of my league and deciding the best way to kill people…

I'm not here to debate whether it was justified or not. We certainly should put a stop to people intentionally causing harm. That being said should we not strive to rise above our neanderthal ways? A little less excitement to use our toys of death and destruction is not a bad thing.

Bingo. What is this excitement for killing people?

While I wont argue that the 2005-2006 looked better specially with the optional appearance package. The hood scoops are not functional and the 2004 exhaust was a true dual setup, it just didn't have the more traditional split tips. A few cosmetic changes doesn't really amount to much. Now if you want to focus on the…

Man! I want that Cockamino!

So we have to ignore all basis of gender? why? It contains a fantastic set of values on which to judge things. Males and females are usually quite different in any species and provide a great way to quickly distinguish characteristics. Physical properties such as weight, shape, size, color and even thought processes…

I don't think you have to drag half the human population down. But we're going way beyond simple car slang here. Humans have always looked for the quickest, fastest way to communicate a thought or idea to one another. As far as I'm concerned there's more to it than just the words itself. How are you saying it and why…

So what we really want is for us humans to be just as shitty, just as judgmental, and just as alienating as we've always been but put a more PC spin on it?

How about people don't take offense to something so ridiculous? Are we really that weak of a species where calling an inanimate object a name hurts? What happened to having pride in yourself and your own ride? I don't care if you called my ride any number of racial or gender slang words that mean you don't approve.

See my reply to Sir_Stig, Keeper of the FiST. I'm sure they're absolute base models but they seem to be out there.

I'm sure they're absolute base models but still ST's.

Nothing on that list even gets to 60% if anything that tells me there really are not any "chick" cars... Bro car's on the other hand...

Came here to post this. You can get a killer deal on a new Focus ST right now. Around 20k or less for that type of car is a steal.