The babysitter (teenage schoolgirl) was a ridiculous character & had an appalling story line in S2. This show is sadly overrated - I feel like the writer thinks he's such a big feminist, but actually he isn't.

I really enjoyed this show! Well, the first season at any rate. Spoilerish below...

Is it really, though? It really leans heavily on the sexual violence

It's ok, In 2 years, she'll have a Mommy blog about her snowflake child who can't process the complex sugars in refined carbohydrates and is allergic to the colour red.

there isn't a way to kill anything in an entirely humane way, though.

Seriously? Arizona took 2 hours to execute a person. Ohio took half an hour to kill a guy. Oklahoma had a guy with a needle in him for 20 minutes, bucking and shouting he was on fire. Google "botched execution" and you'll find a good many entries.

It doesn't sound any more or less humane to me than a botched electric chair or lethal injection execution.

That theory is wrong.

For three minutes after the first drugs were delivered Lockett struggled violently, groaned and writhed, lifting his shoulders and head from the gurney.

There are bound to be posters who think the death penalty is just fine and dandy complaining about this.

Spoken like someone who had never been beheaded

Even for them. Because we are not omniscient, we can't be 100% sure that they are guilty. Do you think it's okay to kill innocent people? I don't.

If a family member/vigilante/inmate killed this child rapist murderer, I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep. But I just can't get behind state-sanctioned murder.

We also have the highest rate of incarceration in the world and a good percentage is wrongfully so. The only reason people were ever against the death penalty to start was because they kept executing innocent people it happens more in the US than anywhere else. It's pretty sad when you think about it.

I wasn't "deflecting." I was just talking about something different than you wanted to talk about.

Honestly, I think if you're being killed by the state, the pain just isn't the relevant factor. It's a distinctly American and bizarre view that the problem with the death penalty is that we're just not doing it nicely enough.

Well, and wasn't there a guy in Oklahoma recently who had a botched execution that took over 20 minutes before they stopped giving him drugs and about 40 minutes before he died? And a guy in Ohio who had pretty much the same thing happen also recently? A botched beheading isn't any worse than a botched lethal…

Beheading, when done quick and painlessly, is probably the most humane form of execution, you're right, but as far as I'm concerned, that's like saying horse shit is the most appetizing animal shit.

Still quicker than someone gasping for air for about an hour. This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

I read something a few years back, talking about how, if we insist on killing people as a punishment (even though it's proven to not be a deterrent and it's more expensive than keeping people in prison for life, so it's massively impractical,) we should just go back to using the guillotine. Apparently, it's the…