It probably will also not be able to tow a 30,000lbs fifth wheel.

So I take it you don’t like the modern swoops and facets and frippery right? And you also don’t like simple boxiness that hearkens back to earlier cars. Soooo... what do you like?

People buy Raptors, they’ll buy this. 

Or are they devoted because there has been nothing to compete with the Wrangler? I think a lot of people will want something to differentiate themselves from all the billions of wranglers floating around these days.

Sorry not sorry

For real. Jalop needs to stop trying to tell me what I'm supposed to like.

Just to clear things up. General take that trucks are too big, perfectly fine and ok. Immediatly devolving into stereotyping, criticizing, and insulting everyone who owns a pickup on baseless and biased anecdotal evidence, not ok.

Not when the F150 has cash stacked on the hood and can be cheaper and do truckier things. 

Good talk, glad we could do this. 

Ford copying Jeep took way too long. Should be interesting—I’m shocked it’s taken this long. Friendly reminder that GM will follow up with some shitstain not called Blazer because they reserved that name for this

I had a whole spiel written up, but I’m not changing any minds here. These broad sweeping shit takes are just exhausting at this point. 

Looks are subjective and yet you are objectively wrong

You and I are clearly on different wavelengths.  My reaction upon seeing the image was an enthusiastic “I don’t hate it!”

Downvote booooo hissssss

I mean, my F-150 does get better mileage than my 2006 Charger did

So (IMO) they vote against their interests out of anger and spite.

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone truly arguing that the far left or far right are looking out for agriculture workers is lying to themselves. Hell, up north here the Liberals tend not to even acknowledge that the prairies exist. Why in god’s name would farmers vote for them either?

Guns and alcohol in Montana. I've never heard heaven described in such eloquent words. 

Or how about getting rid of the fuel standards all together and let the markets decide?

Yeah, there are huge swaths of the country (the parts that have made the F-150 the best selling vehicle in the US for how many decades) where if you pull into a gas station in a 1996 BMW 318ti, it’s “oh look at mr. fancy pants here in his bmw”. Even if the people saying it are driving $70,000 Ford or GMC pickups.