It is legal to sell cigarettes and alcohol. Deaths resulting from those purchases simply occur at slower speeds. We also allow kids to play ice-hockey and football, people of all ages to engage in boxing and MMA. We allow mountain-climbing, rock-climbing and desert marathons.

Perhaps a Gen 1 is comparable in some vague sense, but Vipers have been “real cars” since at least 1996, and world class sporting machines since 2008 whereas TVRs have always seemed like something built in a garage.

Yeah, people die doing things they shouldn’t, and that is just how it goes. Skydiving has about 11 deaths per year in the US, but we don’t stop people from doing it. And we know it to be high risk, just like racing a car at speed on a closed circuit, especially when it is an amateur driver. Hell, amusement parks kill…

You do realize that every article about ANYTHING does not need to include all the past injustices, accidents, and trivia to be informative right? If we all stood by that standard then we would never have a conversation because we would be too busy trying to one-up each other on historical facts before we evne get to…

And here I thought Dodge Vipers were for camping...

I give this take a solid ‘thumbs down’. As long as the participants are aware of their own risks, and they accept those risks only on behalf of themselves - third parties aren’t included... then I don’t see the problem. People do dangerous things in pursuit of what they love all the time. If it works to set up this…

People keep saying they try to kill you but I drove a ‘97 GTS and it was a sweetheart.  Yea the clutch is heavy but it is easy to daily drive.  I’ve got a Model 3P on order and am fully embracing electric but someday when the kids move out I want a complementary analog monster like a Viper.

an American TVR

“meat whole salesman”

throttle house did an episode recently with an acr and on its regular tires, not slicks, it ran damn near the same time as a BAC mono on slicks.  the acr is a monster.  too bad its gone. 

How many mass produced aluminum cars are there? Except for certain premium or high performance cars, it’s a costly material to use for all-body construction.

Plus I’d wager that the companies (Ford/Chevy/Dodge) put some of their best engineers and most engineers on their trucks because they are so important to their company. So the sheer fact that the companies try to innovate to stay competitive is expensive.

I would argue that modern trucks cost more to engineer, at least in some ways, than regular cars. Today’s pickups are expected to literally do all things - be powerful, but fuel efficient; easy-to-use but have all the latest technology; handle like a family sedan, but also pull a 5-ton trailer or tackle Moab at a…

I think truck sales probably have a lot more custom ordering. There’s thousands of different ways to configure them. The manufacturers try to take a guess at what will have mass appeal and put those on the lot. If you want something particular or you don’t want something (lookin at you, $900 navigation system), gotta…

Manual transmission + 4x4 was the main hangup, but it was a laundry list. Upgrade to cloth seats but carpet delete was a sticking point because they could dealer add some of the options, but the few 4x4 manuals they found were all vinyl seats, which was too costly to change in house.

Ordering (at least last time I did it) is also a fun way to find out how rare your tastes are. The Dodge dealer was loathe to do so until they read off every remotely similar but slightly off vehicle in the entirety of US inventory and confirmed that there wasn’t a single exact equipment match (I told them color was…

Cool. It’s certainly different now with the chip shortage, but I feel like there’s no way that fleets (or even single customers) are paying the full $42k for the gas models.

To be fair, your brother did know how to drain the radiator.

Case *in* point.

Congrats on being the only person ever to have a broken A/C system that just needed a refill