I agree with with you that if someone is absolutely determined to follow though, no intervention in the world is going to make a difference—though of course the article made it sound like he did attempt to seek help.

It may be unhelpful for her in hindsight, of course, but my thought process had more to do with encouraging others to take signs seriously. This is basically the first thing they tell you in any suicide awareness campaign.

Funny, I must have just thought it to myself and went another way. It's late!

It's true, I don't know exactly what happened. I'm going by what is stated in the article. My take on it comes from the point of view of thinking that if there is greater awareness of how to handle situations with actively suicidal people perhaps some—though only some—deaths could be prevented.

Yes, I'm sure she's in the worst kind of hell right now. And I think it's definitely understandable, tragically so, but whenever stories like this happen I just hope people can learn a little something from it that might save a life the next time.

Yep, exactly. Only on Jezebel is it controversial to suggest a suicidal person might need professional help...

Me either. That's why I used the word "unimaginable." I feel just terrible for her. But—teachable moment here—if someone I love says they aren't safe to be left alone, we are on our way to the nearest psych ER. That's what the professional advisement would be, and it has to be permissable to say so. Pretending…

Guess what, I can empathize with her and think she made a mistake at the same time. If there's one thing that can be learned from this, it's to understand the point that when people don't feel safe being alone, they need to have a safety plan of some kind in effect.

It's too bad the fiance didn't take it a step or two further and try to get him some help. She must be feeling the worst anguish imaginable right now.

I don't know, I read the blog excerpt as a request for greater compassion and empathy for parents living other types of experiences. Is that a wrong thing for her to wish for?

The fallacy here is that good parenting is considered to be an index of how contented everybody in the vicinity is when your kids are present.

I really wish I could but as I explained, there is a policy in effect. Even I am not above the policy.

Whenever someone ends a reply to me with "but whatever" I rain down white hot rage with the intensity of a thousand pissy suns as a matter of policy.

Yep, as caveats go that's a pretty reasonable one.

Well, Ms./Mr. Prickly, it sounded like you were saying that people reconnecting with old flames post-divorce was pathetic. It wasn't clear to me that you were only referring to people that broke up their marriages specifically to be with people they used to know.

People can feel infatuation and romantic love at any age, which to me seems more marvelous than pathetic.

The fat comments represent a very infantile form of hatred.

I can't defend it because I think Wade's point is entirely legit, but I still like guyliner and manscaping.

Right, this is how it is right now, is my point. If you're worried about your husband cheating and leaving you put it in the prenup that he has to pay a penalty if he does.

Ooh yeah good point.