My dad’s always calling me a young offensive guy, too, but it doesn’t seem to help in my job search.

You still need roster talent.  Sure GB can contend easily since they have Aaron Rodgers, but he’s declining.  I don’t think Bill B. could help the Jags.  

We should start a thread of overrated serial killers. 

Me too. At the risk of being one of those people the poster referred to above, I honestly never found him attractive, although I could intellectually understand why someone else might. But he always came across in interviews and court appearances as arrogant, smarmy and unctuous.  Never got it.

It was “The Deliberate Stranger”, and he was terrific in it.  It’s too bad it gave him a stigma, because I’m sure he took the role to show his range, and he definitely showed it.

I always found Son of Sam boring. His letters are creepy, and his impact is interesting, but the dude himself? Boring.

Have you read The Only Living Witness? It’s a book written by two journalists Bundy tried to charm, but because they had years of covering killers and sociopaths, they saw right through him. It’s a really fascinating book because it destroys the myth of the charming serial killer.

That’s awesome you got to hear Ann speak in person! I don’t doubt that it did haunt her. I got the sense from the book that she felt a lot of guilt (about not seeing him for what he was, but also feeling sad about her friend...at least initially). Have you read newer updated versions of the book? Ann added an…

I’m still squicked out by the woman who did marry him, and had enough alone time to get pregnant by him in prison. That poor child.

He said that it ruined his career, for a while anyway. Damn he was convincing in that movie. Desperate Stranger?

I haven’t read her book but am aware of her friendship with Bundy and I think Rule’s story is really powerful: ~anyone~ can be a monster.

While he did kill several 17 year olds and a couple of 12 year olds, I don’t think he impaled a child on a metal rod. But please, correct me if I’m wrong.

You gotta give Zac Efron props for stepping out of the ‘blandy affable former-teen-star’ mode. Like Robert Pattinson, albeit to a lesser extent, he’s worked at doing different and difficult stuff.

That’s actually not his wife, it’s a woman he dated and who repeatedly contacted the police to tell them the suspect they were looking for matched her boyfriend (and they basically did nothing with this info). So, I actually think she believed it was him pretty easily, but it’s crazy that she continued dating him…

If you have read The Stranger Beside Me you would know this is very true. He chramed and gained the trust of women so they would never suspect him.

Man, it would be really nice if we could spot evil just by looking at it, but that is just not how it works. Sometimes people try really hard to make it so by insisting, when some charming celeb’s misdeeds come to light, that they personally never found him attractive, etc, but they’re usually lying to themselves and…

The young and handsome Mark Harmon played Bundy years ago.

Well, story is made from his wife perspective, and she believed till the end that Bundy is innocent. I think director (who made Netflix documentary about Bundy, released yesterday, really good) wanted to show him in mocking and grotesque way. I will watch, maybe not in cinema (I don't think movie like this will come…

The trailer seems that way because it’s from the perspective of someone close to Bundy, who fell for him. The audience knows who Bundy is, I think the drama here focuses on this woman coming to discover his true nature over the course of the film.

Bundy, in the hands of Efron and Berlinger, seems vaguely likable.