How is this not globally recognized as a bait and switch scheme at this point.

I really can’t wait to see the Tesla Stans rationalize this one. 

Tesla continues to act like trash, weird nerds continue to defend Elon: Film at Eleven.

Man, this is a real Poe’s Law conundrum.

You’re going to hurt the Porsche-stans feelings. Accuracy is important: That’s a lot of money for a Tiguan with a detuned Golf R motor.

You talk as if they are different things. 

That’s a lot of money for a Tiguan :p

Well, I need this.

Sweet Jesus..... 

I’m sure hypothetically one could be had for $80-85k. But I bet virtually all the ones on “dealer lots” will be over $100k. Still a bargain compared to the competition. But, uh, not a “bargain.” 

Why does this look like it was messily eating dark chocolate cake?

Yes, towing will severely reduce range in an EV pickup. Also yes, towing severly reduces range in a gas/diesel pickup.

The trick will be to make sure drivers don’t have to stop for 45 - 80 minutes (guessing really large battery packs for these trucks) every 150 miles. That reduced range isn’t such a pain in the ass…

Who would’ve tough that the Toyota Avalon would be a trend setter?

I really think the C8 Z06 is going to be the sports car performance “bargain”(between quotes because I know it’s not inexpensive). The Corvette in general has always held that crown, but if the Z06 starts under $80k I’m not sure anything else will ever come close to the performance/$ available.

Yep. The half-ton market seems ripe for electrification to me; the super-duty class not so much until storage density has gotten a lot better. Although the EV Hummer’s 1000+ lb/ft of torque is certainly enough to get a trailer started up a ramp...

For those in the last group, it’s often their job.

Me likey alot...

Towing is like group sex; most people talking about it aren’t actually doing it, and most of the people who are doing it are doing it a lot less and a lot less intensely than they’d have you believe, and the relatively few people who are doing it all the time have organized their lives so as to accommodate their…

I have some land in the southern US. In my state, you don’t need a license to hunt hogs and a permit for night shooting of feral hogs is trivial to get. I use an AR pattern rifle chambered in 300 Blackout and use standard capacity (30 round) magazines when I go and try to eliminate a hog infestation. I have to take…