This is so amazingly, 1000% true. The fact that 90% of her exposure to society is via 80's television is a genuinely important aspect of her psyche right now.

I think what they were going for with Eleven/Max (though they did NOT land it) was that all of Eleven’s relationship knowledge (romantic and non) she’s getting from watching soap operas in the cabin all day. I think with some work this could have been an interesting exploration on how relationships on TV can shape our…

I actually thought Mike had less excuse for being an ass to Max than Eleven did & it made me think less of him. Eleven I tend to give a pass because of the whole being a barely socialized lab rat thing, plus being hunted like an animal, AND THAT’S WHAT SHE BECAME. (Naw I’m just kidding, she’s all right).

Also - and I can’t stress this enough - she’s been watching a lot of television.

You’d think a 13 year old girl who’s been raised in a laboratory and spent the entire previous year locked in a cabin in the woods would behave rationally in that situation!

You’re contributing little to nothing to the conversation but thanks we all think so highly of you know after that Pulitzer speech

To many of you: You don’t get credit for “never liking (his/her/their) work anyway”! shut up, isn’t even remotely about that.

Making the woman uncomfortable is probably part of it - asserting dominance, transgressing their boundaries. That, and exhibitionism. I don’t believe for a second that these guys think “I bet these virtual strangers want to watch me jack off.”

not really about sex

False.

“There are actual allegations now and I don’t believe anyone will be disputing them.”

Yes it’s definitely just a total coincidence that Louis CK has been accused of the exact thing the rumors said he was doing!!!!

“knowingly falsely claiming that he harassed Jen Kirkman acceptable”

And even after this, you insist on believing that Kirkman wasn’t talking about Louis even though everything she said pointed absolutely to it being Louis? 

There no anonymous allegations, just a rumor that somehow managed to be 100% exactly what happened magically as if pulled from the ether.

“THESE ALLEGATIONS WERE NOT MADE IN THE PRESENCE OF A NOTARY PUBLIC AND HAVE A SLIVER OF LEEWAY FOR ME TO IGNORE AND SO IGNORE I WILL.”

There actually were. Like, some of us know the people and don’t need it to appear in the freaking New York Times to understand smoke meaning fire.

Exactly.

Amidst all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, hopefully the AV Club commentariat will find it in their hearts to praise the courage of these brave women, who will now have to deal with a ton of flaming shit from every beardbro on the Internet in addition to whatever backlash they suffer in their careers. And that’s…

Yup

They also owe Tig Notaro an apology for calling her “ungrateful” and shit for daring to speak out about this.