All of my children are equal in my eyes. They have performed admirably in my service and I could not raise one above the rest.

Back in the days before mobile phones - I know, I'm old - when I was in high school... my folks had a phone in their bedroom, and I had a phone in my room. Same line, of course.

I'm beyond disbelief that you are of the opinion that people view alcoholism as being "edgy and only for the tortured". I know of no one who thinks bring "drunk" is ok. I'm unsure the crowd you hang with, but being the drunk with alcoholic problems has never been edgy or ok with people I know. Actually, I find…

Yep.

This is yet another reason why the stigma around mental health issues is so awful. If people are essentially self-medicating with alcohol to deal with stress, anxiety, depression, or pain, they would get more effective and vastly less damaging relief from a psychiatrist and the right meds, and/or psychotherapy. But I…

Exactly. And I think that anecdote about the conversation she had with a friend is very telling - the friend just assumed that since North is part of a rich family, she won't ever have to work for anything, and Kim's response was "No, she's going to be encouraged to get a job and make her own way (to an extent)."

Everyone who's been calling her a "good mom" came across as the sort of weak-kneed liberal Fox News complains about. It was so patronizing, like everyone was concerned they would sound hateful or un-PC if they called the situation exactly how it is: dysfunctional and dangerous.

Oh god. Pure conjecture, but what if that's why she ignores her so much? The daughter who went away to live with grandma?

One of her older daughters would have been around 8 years old at the time that creep was convicted.

Can I ask though, what is the source on this? Mama June herself? I get that we can't expect bank statements but I'm not so sure that we can trust the word of this woman just because she said she put the money in a trust fund. She can say anything.

That's a really good point re: pageant moms. Child pageants have to be EXTREMELY careful about sex offenders, there's no way he'd be permitted anywhere near the building, camera crew or not.

Yeah, no, she's not a "poor thing" in my eyes. My sympathy is reserved for her kids and the now-18 year old that her new boyfriend orally raped as an 8 year old.

I can't believe TLC won't pull this show. Even if the terms of the boyfriend's parole don't stipulate that he can't be around children, other pageant moms are going to hit the roof. They're already helicopter moms; one of them will sue TLC in a heartbeat if she thinks her precious little snowflake was in the same…

Yeah, people were like "Sure, she whores her kid out for money in a reality show, and seems to mostly ignore her older daughter who just became a teen mom, but you know, she is nice to her kids!" and I'd just roll my eyes.

This always bothered me too. Like, seriously, this woman gave her child Mountain Dew and Red Bull for energy (after slamming pixie sticks down her throat didn't work well enough) and we're acting like they're just the most down home, normal family ever brought into existence. When middle class and upper middle class…

I never fell for her act. In their episode of Toddlers & Tiara's you could see her hissing through her teeth at her daughter to keep practicing when she was tired and wanted to stop. Plus there is the fact that her oldest daughter was raised by her grandmother and only moved in with her mother for a pay check.

Even before this new revelation, how could people classify her as a good mother? Sure, she seems to love her kids but that isn't enough. Sorry.

So, can all the people who defend Mama June as being a "good mother" STFU now? She took back the molester of her own child family member. When she has a child around the same age.

Alright, I am going to play devil's advocate here and say that I doubt Kim meant that her parents bought her literally "nothing" - it seems like she meant that there were certain things that she wanted that her parents wouldn't just give her. She had to get a job and work and save up money for them. I mean, I think…

She's not complaining about her parents being mean. She's talking about instilling a good work ethic in your children, regardless of how wealthy you are.