So, in the UK, it's normal to decide your client's guilt on your own and proceed accordingly? Or is there a chance that's a terrible idea no matter where you are?

Gotcha. The classic example is a Jewish lawyer assigned to a white supremacist's case. Basically, something so blatant that you probably couldn't zealously represent in the first place.

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/ab…

You can refuse clients. You shouldn't refuse clients because you've decided they're guilty. We'd end up without a trial system pretty damn quickly if that were all right.

I was waiting for that response so I could fully close the loop here:

If the reason to refuse is "ooh, but I know he's guilty, you can just tell!" then yes, obviously.

Which is generally considered unethical. If you don't understand the purpose and mechanisms of the adversarial trial system, stop talking so damned much about it.

I have literally no idea what you're getting at here. Yes, good lawyers are expensive.

Yes, you horse's ass. What do you think trials are for?

Eh. I'm 30 and never had to use a spare tire. I'm guessing car companies figured out they were going unused often enough to justify the cut, and a temporary tire is good enough for the job.

WHAT A PLAYER, THOUGH, GUYS, SERIOUSLY THOUGH.

Free in Wisconsin.

You know that "exotic" and "Italian car that will cost $200000 and last 10000 miles" aren't synonymous, right?

If he's a DO, he's definitely a full physician. The chief of staff of a hospital I worked in was a DO, and a very good one.

Right...harder to use, for a paid gig, makes "free" not so free.

Corporate IT departments tend not to love applications that require 20 other things to be bundled with them, and updated constantly, in order to work.

Seriously, who the fuck smokes joints?

Those are balls.

So you guys aren't capping off the evening with a UFC video game post? Bold editorial move.

I live in Wisconsin, so I definitely know bad winters. But we don't give the East Coast enough credit for the severe wind they get there. They get true hurricane force winds during winter storms.