Deposits have been around forever. They’re no different than a security deposit on a rental.

Despite your blatant insult I’ll stick around.

Well I’m afraid I can’t convince you otherwise then.

I have a soccer team badge as my avatar and have hundreds of posts on a video game blog. I assure you I am no PR person, haha. Feel free to view my profile and read my posts - I’m genuine!

To start, I’m not trying to patronize you. I’m genuinely interested in this discussion(s). Although we are talking over the internet so I can’t really prove this. I’m also happy to admit I may be defensive about some public misconceptions, stereotypes, and misrepresentations of car dealerships coming purely from…

I actually came here to ask a question. What you and I are doing is engaging in a side conversation.

Unless you’re paying cash, you don’t pay for a car all at once either.

I guess I can’t blame you for the cynicism seeing the reputation the auto-industry has, but it’s also the reason I’m inquiring on consumer opinions about a no-commission store.

Haha, well in reference to operating a business... I don’t have a different definition.

I apologize, I may not have been clear there. The dealerships measuring Gross PUR are NOT no-haggle. No-haggle dealers measure things like volume, age of inventory, and retention.

That system is actually quite popular in volume stores/brands! The traditional payplan years ago, and even now will pay straight commission (~30%), but you also receive “flats” that you get paid in a situation where the car was sold at a price where 30% was a tiny amount. Generally it amounts to $150-$300.

In your…

When you factor in the average cost of household goods ~$100/wk you end up at $5200/yr, or $31,200/6 years. How about that!

I may start haggling my groceries ;)

Trust me, all the (progressive)dealers would like the same thing. Haggling in today’s “information age” literally does nothing except create unnecessary stress for both parties. People don’t realize that they spend more on groceries/clothes/entertainment without haggling then they do on a car once every 3-4 years.…

Again, for clarity’s sake, I am curious how people would react when the same vehicles can be found 10 miles away. In order to create a no-commission environment you have to eliminate the haggle as much as possible. In order for this to work you must make ALL prices appealing to customers to an extent that they show up…

Whoops! I meant $500-$1000 more than the competitor selling the same product(new car) 10 miles away.

The trick with Carmax is that they lack manufacturer volume incentives (sans the handful of Carmax, new car stores). Your no-commission prices would be right at invoice if not slightly below with paperwork to prove it.…

That all makes sense! For references sake, I was thinking along the lines of Toyota, Nissan, Honda, and Hyundai. With a broad enough model line I feel like you would need to master the balance by keeping the < $25k-30k cars at rock bottom and advertising your desire to get them in a car.

I’m genuinely curious how…

Fair question! This is exactly the perspective I’m looking for.

To clarify on employee pay: A no-commission store can (and does) pay their employees more. A commission based store leaves performance in the hands of the salesperson which can fluctuate based on the individual’s needs or wants; this also means the…

Here’s a question from someone in the industry. If you had two stores selling the same make within 10 miles of each other. One was no-commission, expedited process based on customer service and volume, but was priced $500-$1000 higher. Would you shop both? Would your family members (who may not be as versed)? Would…

Just because I had access to the data ;)

I may have misspoke in defense of our country’s savior in front of goal! It looks like both Howard and Everton’s defense did worse this year compared to last:

... straight to Aguero no less.

I’d pin that blame on his defense. They did a 180º turn from the last few years.