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Fair point - but it’s not innovation.

Rather than adapting, you should expect the dealer associations that have enough clout to get legislation passed in their states to make some or all of these changes illegal.

The reality is that despite what media outlets claim, ICE vehicles will be around for long enough that the current generation of technicians can probably go most of (if not all of) their life without ever having to work on an EV. I don’t intend to own or work on EV BMW’s at my shop any time soon, I stay more than busy

That seems to be the way most independent shops are going everywhere. For example, I own one of the only shops in the Phoenix, AZ area that’ll touch a BMW that’s pre-2000. I’ll happily work on anything from the 70's and up. Hell, I’d rather work on older BMW’s than anything after 2005 anyways... plastic garbage.

The Hoda Kot-b clone was failing, so they retired it and are prepping the Hoda Kot-c clone as we speak.

I’m sure the trend of just replacing parts until the warning lights go out will continue. No need to diagnose, just rip and replace.

Agreed I think Musk is a fool but CEO’s are so risk averse now because of shareholders that we have lost the lead in key markets.

^this Munroe doesn’t have extensive knowledge of how any system would integrate into an OEM factory set.  That comes from a supplier level, through production, and into sustainment.  Honestly I don’t even know if Tesla has any thoughts to sustainment as I’ve never gone into a parts store and tried to buy parts for one.

Also, watch out for the insurance or repair costs on that ingeniously-built Model Y that eliminated hundreds of components with a giant casting. Tesla may have saved on their costs, but they passed the costs onto you!

Yeah the only thing I would see another automaker to learn from Tesla is its battery tech and powertrain. An engineer taking one apart and being impressed with a bit of design is great. No one should be styling either look or interior functionality after a Tesla.

Tesla was afforded the luxury of not needing to turn a profit for years, as well as having virtually no competition. This allowed them to experiment and make vehicles in ways not afforded to most, if any, of the established auto makers.

A lot of e-ink has been spilled about how Tesla somehow manages to get such absurd profit margins per car.

Large, old, companies are also very risk averse, especially when it comes to added costs and change. For small companies, risks like this are do-or-die.

The smart ones are. OEMs still do their own teardowns, but tend to be more costly and less accurate.

1st Gear: Oh, also, it could lead cars to ignore posted speed limits, too.”

Aren't automakers his main customers? He tears it down and they buy his books full of findings. 

Why wait a few years? A Chevy Bolt is half the price of a Tesla. I love mine, just wish it charged faster.

Everything I read says the EV credit is NOT refundable. This means that the Venn diagram of people with $7,500 in tax liability AND who are below the 300% federal poverty level basically does not exist. Add in “shopping for a car costing more than $27,000" and “owning a place where they could plug in an EV”, and I’m

Seems odd to me that the shareholders are raising a stink over this when they’ve largely benefitted, in the long run, from Tesla’s success.  This just sounds like they’re unhappy with the overall recent downturn of the stock and are latching on to the first thing they can find to file a lawsuit over.

I was gonna say, it’s gotta work this way, not the way Theoretics described.  The other way makes zero sense.