My middle child has kicked my rear air vent slider into oblivion. Now the vents can only point up and down, no more side to side for them.

But at least you don’t have to pay the dealer $15k more, right? Transparency in pricing!

Idk, there is a used vehicle rebate so even if the area is expensive I would think the average person making 60-70k could swing a 20-25k used EV then factoring in $4000 rebate makes it 16-21k and the feds will chip in $4000 credit on your taxes. In my area there are tons of 2-5 year old examples to choose from.

True! Engineering Explained did something similar to this argument a while ago. I wonder what typical usage would show any actual savings if the added weight of the bigger battery and cost increase was compared to normal hybrids. Everything from the phev purist who plugs in every chance possible to the person who…

If they did come out with a vehicle in this price range I have to wonder if someone wouldn’t buy a used Bolt, Kona EV or Niro EV instead. At that price there are tons of options to be had with some warranty and lots of battery warranty left. For me I’d go used, even in this inflated market, to make sure my inexpensive…

If I remember right the credit increases based on vehicle price up to the max $4000 credit for a $25,000 used vehicle. The way I read the IRS rules if you pay $25,001 before trade in or down payments, even if the vehicle is 2 years old or greater, you get nothing. Also the income restrictions are greater on the used…

I’m not so sure on the price. If anything they seem to be comparably priced for equivalent vehicles. A model Y starts at $47k, while ford and VW stuff start $38-43k. As well their available charging infrastructure may be inferior but to say they take twice as long at a fast charger is untrue and if you’re talking…

The battery replacement is an even better deal than what you said. When the batteries were replaced they replaced them with the same ones that go into a new Bolt so this means the capacity was increased a little but more importantly the range of the new battery is about 259 miles compared to the 230 miles it was…

Are you saying you need 220 miles of range every day, just in case? Or you need at least 220 miles of range on the odd day you travel a bit farther? There are several options that could do that, the EV6 should theoretically meet your needs if it fits your budget and family size, assuming you don’t need 220 miles a day…

Does your rental have an external household outlet? Do you regularly commute more than 30 miles each day? Unless someone can correct me I understand you should easily get 3miles of range per hour of charge time on a normal outlet. So if you can plug in for 10 hours at home daily you can easily make a 30 mile commute.…

Yes. I’ve calculated that I could use a standard household outlet to charge a Bolt enough for me to make my 60 mile daily commute. This works because it would not get driven much or at all on the weekends so I have enough time to get to a 90-100% charge every weekend then top up overnight during the week. Compared to…

Yes and no. They do not qualify for the typical tax credit but the leasing company can basically give you theirs. So you can get a typical rebate or the leasing tax credit rebate then combine either with dealer discounts. I assume if inventory continues to pile we will see a manufacturer rebate+leasing tax…

100% it’s very interesting how many dealers have 20-30 EVs on the lot yet they are only willing to take off 1-2k on something that’s 45-50k? Sure there are manufacturer rebates up to $7500 in cases like Hyundai but that doesn’t seem to move the needle. Also look at what was ordered, dealers stocked up on mid-high…

It is interesting now. Basically the Bolt and Model 3/Y qualify for the full tax credit. All the other manufacturers are basically at the point where they are offering the tax credit as a lease incentive to get people in the door. However Tesla and Chevy keep the tax credit when leasing. Kia/Hyundai are offering up to…

Prices are still set using supply/demand principles on the global market, which is a theory of capitalism, no?

Low taxes. On another thought, why is it that the states with the highest taxes, in general, rank near the top in wealth. Example CA: big taxes while also being one of the richest countries in the world if it wasn’t part of the US.

Well yeah they are a publicly traded, multi-national corporation. They aren’t a local mom/pop that would recognize the effects of erroneously raising prices in search of a couple % on the year end bottom line

Yeah they kick the van on all costs until the consumer stops buying. Labor is just a cog in the machine can’t really fault them for asking for all they can. Especially in this current market where automakers have increased prices partially due to changing the mix of high price to low price cars not specifically due to…

Labor is only one input of many factors in car pricing but I’m sure you know that already.

Because you have 2+ kids, an absolute nag of a wife and the only thing that overcomes the ED is knowing your driving the largest and most angry grilled vehicle you could buy!