Read me 1st: You Can’t Have Too Much Cars & Coffee

Thanks for the info. We decided to keep our budget to $25k or under. $10k under would put it at $28k for the base no options model. Compelling but outside our budget.

I’m with biturbo. I’m willing to fly to where these deals are. Best I found so far is $23k for a 4cyl(what I’m looking for) with the sport sets and 35k mi. In white though.

Why are you regretting it? I’m in the market and looking at a used TC.

The tongue weight limits make compete sense. Get them up there enough and you’ll be wheelie-ing up the hills. On a FWD car, that may be a problem.

My reply below sounded harsher than I expected it so first off, thanks for the info. I tried to edit it but it would not stick.

First off, thanks for the info. I was going to google it when I had a chance. The rating difference between the U.S. and Europe makes more sense now. To me, that does not change the capability of the vehicle/driver combination though.

2800 kg in the UK

...and we caught up with Yamada-san and his Zonda out on the roads of Tokyo.

IFTNFS and Mosca both mention it though it was not mentioned in the article. It looks like it is standard on all the newer cars.

I honestly can’t imagine who the market is for an electric motorcycle—the main appeal of riding a motorcycle Harley Davidson is feeling and hearing the engine-

Voice controls.

If this was available in the US, I’d be done looking for our next car:

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The Pantera was just the example of the older style. The Challenger (see above) being a retro car it makes sense that they would have a retro option for the seats.

Bingo! I’m not familiar with the new challengers so thanks!

Alright, what kind of car is this? I’m on a seat kick lately and these look newer but with older style horizontal stitching:

Longer wheel base would result in a slower rotation all other things being equal. Maybe slow enough that the front wheels could have taken the hit and brought the car back in control.

I thought the same thing too, but when Netflix/HuLu/Reddit/Etc. are required to pay more to access Comcast’s/AT&T’s/ETC.’s high speed lanes, those charges will be passed on to you through bigger fees and/or diminished service regardless of who you use for your ISP or whether you use a VPN or not.

If you are in the bay, be sure to check with LMI. I’ve been using their P2P wireless for 5 years with great service and no problems.